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VK2ZRG/TPK 1.83d Msg #:813  Date:10-08-04  Time:8:15Z

Hello all techies,
                I've been writing a small programme to calculate transmission
 lines in the last few weeks. I've added four lines of code to calculate loss
 at a nominated frequency. The calculated loss is the sum of copper loss and
 dielectric loss.
    In the past I had wondered why balanced transmission lines had very much
 lower loss than coaxial lines. It now seems clear that the reason why this
 is true has nothing to do with balanced lines being balanced and little to
 do with a balanced line being air spaced. The real reason is simply that
 balanced lines are high impedance and coaxial lines are low impedance.
    If you compare a 200 ohm balanced line with a 200 ohm air spaced coaxial
 line having a centre conductor the same diameter as wires in the balanced
 line, the loss of the coaxial line will be close to half (around 52%) that
 of the balanced line!
    Also the reason why foam coaxial cables have lower losses than their
 equivalent solid PE cable, has little to do with losses in the dielectric
 for frequencies of less than 2 GHz. The real reason is that foam cables have a
 larger centre conductor which means less copper loss.

   Am I right?  All comments appreciated.

   I've also been wondering about what is the correct way to calculate the
 Zo of a square coaxial cable. i.e A round inner conductor in a square tube.
 There is a formula on page 5-36 of the ARRL UHF / Microwave Handbook that
 simply multiplies the ratio of outer to inner dimensions by 1.08 for the
 standard formula for a round cable. This is the formula.

    Zo = 60 / ûEr * LN(1.08*(Outside /Inner))

    This formula is probably adequate for most practical cases but obviously
 is wrong for very low impedances. Multiplying the ratio by 1.08 is the same
 as adding 4.62 ohms to the result from the standard formula for round cables.
 So for the case where inner diameter equals outer diameter, the Zo for a
 round cable is 0 ohms and 4.62 ohms for a square cable by this formula.
   This cannot be true, both must be zero ohms. The solution to the problem
 lies in the calculation of the capacitance of a round conductor in a square
 tube and then finding an equivalent outer diameter for a round cable with
 the same size inner conductor.

   Does anyone have a formula for doing this? I have a formula for round
 cables. This is it.

    Capacity = 55.555 * Er / LN(OutSideDia/InnerDia) pF per metre.

  I have a programme called APPCAD that came as freeware from Agilent (AKA
  Hewlett Packard in times gone by). You may be able to find it on their web
  site. This has a section that can calculate a number of different
  transmission lines including square coaxial types. It would appear that
  APPCAD uses the 1.08 factor for square coaxial line too.

73s from Ralph VK2ZRG@VK2W1.#SYD.NSW.AUS.OC
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