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KB2VXA > TECH     16.08.03 03:03l 86 Lines 4227 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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From: KB2VXA@WT3V.#CNJ.NJ.USA.NOAM
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Hi Dick and readers,

Just a few observations and comments, surely repeated elsewhere.

I too enjoyed the technical discussions, especially the ones you 
mentioned which "degenerated" into some pretty funny stuff. I totally 
cracked up and added plenty of "rubbish" of my own when those Aussies 
found beer at the center of the Earth. Still I wonder if some may have 
pricked a finger or two on those cadmium spikes and are now Sleeping 
Beauties. Hmmm, maybe that's why some have dropped out of discussion.

Now please define "recent flood" in light of the fact that we see a 
constant stream of the same "BBC Fatties" from the Untidy Kingdom (my 
term). Perhaps a combination, all encompassing term based on yours would 
be "raging queens". Oh BTW, please give those Feminazis you mentioned the 
boot, we have enough trouble without their constant rabble rousing.

Now why do you ask questions you already know the answer to? You gave 
those answers in the same breath with the reference to "unfriendly 
language" which is an understatement in itself. You don't need a degree 
in physics to see the cause and effect here, the morons do their part 
driving sensible users off packet. It's just like a worthless e-mail 
account, nobody wants to weed through mountains of spam to read the mail, 
so they find a spam free server.

Of course there are much more serious issues than idiots, mostly 
technical problems drive users away and cut off others entirely. No need 
to mention things you're all so familiar with, you don't need my 
preaching hellfire and damnation over the painfully obvious.

Now WHAT new group could you possibly be going on about? Perhaps you 
should check with your retailer about TNC sales. Get real man, when a 
newbie gets his computer, it comes with a modem and Internet software 
installed so why go any farther? You obviously overlooked my bulletins 
regarding the wherabouts of the US Hams so missing from packet. The 
recent Internet dump made that SO obvious, you saw all their callsigns on 
those newsgroups! Just HOW could you have missed it???

FYI, the only reason you saw less than half the flood was because of word 
filters used on BBSes that dumped most of the obscenities and other foul 
language they use in those bulletins. You think the crap that fles on 
packet from time to time is bad? When it comes to the Internet, ya ain't 
seen nuttin yet! Naturally I never bothered with any of those Internet 
meeting places exactly for that reason, packet is bad enough thank you.

I hate to be a wet blanket, but you asked and I answered. Not to be cold 
as well, I too hope to see more worthwhile discussions and sorely miss 
the tech stuff. Well, not entirely, lots of tech and general discussion 
nets around and THEY don't hurl insults at each other or net control 
would shut it down in a heartbeat. Notice I said "would", never saw the 
need.

I have already seen packet rebounding after the latest and expect it to 
continue on an upward curve, at least until the next time some fools 
shoot it down. Still there is hope!

Last but not least, the rosey idea of not responding to "them" is easier 
said than done. There are two very good reasons for responding, at least 
initially. First, if allowed to get away with it they will be taken at 
face value and truth. Second, when one is wrongfully accused he MUST 
stand up and counter or the accusation also will be taken as truth. There 
is a very ancient saying that comes down to "When the first presents his 
case he is believed, until the second presents his."

This is not to say a situation should progress into an open squabble, a 
judge would never allow such in his court! One should simply know when to 
shut up, even if "the other guy" keeps running off at the mouth. 
Remember, it takes two to Tango so there is no point in TWO fools going 
at it once rebuttal has been presented.

73 de Warren, KB2VXA@WT3V.#CNJ.NJ.USA.NOAM
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