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G8MNY  > TECH     30.12.02 20:59l 42 Lines 1730 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
BID : 35055_GB7CIP
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Subj: DC/RF Sensing PA Switching
Path: DB0MRW<DB0RGB<OK0PPL<RZ6HXA<SP7MGD<GB7YKS<GB7PZT<GB7MAX<GB7COV<GB7CIP
Sent: 021230/1014Z @:GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EU #:35055 [Caterham] $:35055_GB7CIP
From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EU
To  : TECH@WW

For PA with RF/DC sense switching (as some rigs put out DC on Tx), that used a
diode to detect any +ve signals (RF/DC) on the transceiver to operate the PA
PTT system....

The time constants are ok for SSB & FM, but 22uF can be omitted for FM only.
TR1 & 2 BC107 etc, TR3 a TIP type PNP, D1 rf diode 1N4148 etc, D2 1N4001.

HOW IT WORKS
D1 detects RF & passes any DC to turn on TR1. TR1 turning on charges up the
22uF & makes TR3 initially conduct to give fast Tx attack. When 22uF is over
2V TR2 is turned on & passes higher base current into TR3 via a Tx LED ensuring
it is well turned on. The 150K +ve feedback ensure snap action.

External PTT earth can be put in/out on TR2 collector.

           1n
Rig -------!!----Drive Relay
    !    !
  100K  _!_
    !   \ /D1                                  ___________+12-24V
    !   ---                                  !/e
    !    !      .----------------------------! TR3
    !    !      !                            !\
    !    !      !      Ext o__                 !
    !   22K   !/       PTT    !    LED         !___________Drive, O/P
    !    !----! TR1           !----!<!---330---!           Power & Fan
    !    !    !\e           !/                 !           Relays
    !   ===     !--47K------! TR2              !
    !    !10n   !+     !    !\e                !
    !    !     ===     !------)----150K--------!
    !    !      !22u   !      !               _!_
    !    !      !     10K     !               /_\ D2
    !    !      !      !      !                !
   --------------------------------------------------

I have found it was heat sensitive, due to the sensitivity of the 1st NPN.

73 De John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP


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