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TCP-Group Digest Mon, 15 Sep 97 Volume 97 : Issue 77
Today's Topics:
Legislation of Digital comms in other countries (not EA) (2 msgs)
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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 1997 19:38:51 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Simon J Mudd <sjmudd@redestb.es>
Subject: Legislation of Digital comms in other countries (not EA)
Hi there guys and please excuse my cross-posting.
As some of you may know I've been reasonably active doing tcp/ip here in
Spain as EA4ELS, though I still have my UK licence G0FNB.
While I have the BR68 booklet which describes the UK legislation for
normal radio ham stations, I don't have information on the UK
legislation as it relates to BBSes, and whether or not "in theory or
practice" there are any special problems associated with running a tcp/ip
home or "club" station 24 hours a day.
I'm also curious as to how the legislation in these areas is handled in
other countries.
I'm looking for this information because the Spanish Telecoms Ministry has
just brought out a law which basically prohibits ANY digipeating,
forwarding or other non point-to-point, ham-to-ham communications, without
requiring a special license, these licenses being intended for ONE station
per geographical area.
As you can see this potentially STOPS all AX25 BBSes, which were
previously unregulated, but has (for me) the very undesirable side-effect
that tcp/ip is considered digipeating and therefore in its intirety
completely illegal.
Fun news for me, as I've just come home from holiday!
If anyone would be willing to provide me with information on this aspect
of ham radio communications I would appreciate your time. I don't need
very detailed information, but am looking to see how the following is / is
not regulated:
1. unattended operations (at home or at a club)
2. tcp/ip specific legislation
3. Internet wormholes
4. general digital legislation
5. general BBS legislation
6. special calls required for any of above.
It's a lot to ask, so please be brief, and may not be very relevant to
the normal lists messages, so it may be best to post to me directly
and not on the list (I don't mind either way, but the list manager
might)
Thanks in advance for your thoughts and comments
regards,
Simon J Mudd, Madrid SPAIN +34-1-559 2854 e-mail: sjmudd@redestb.es
[short messages - from radio hams] ----> ea4els@ea4els.ampr.org
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 09:24:51 +0100 (BST)
From: Alan Cox <alan@cymru.net>
Subject: Legislation of Digital comms in other countries (not EA)
> legislation as it relates to BBSes, and whether or not "in theory or
> practice" there are any special problems associated with running a tcp/ip
> home or "club" station 24 hours a day.
Tons. Home isnt too bad, Club stations require notice of variations, site
licenses and all sorts. "Third party" bulletin board message storing
requires a notice of variation too. That means shell access with email
over UK amateur radio is a no go.
Furthermore the people involved in the RSGB on most of this issue think
when you say "digital" you mean morse code.
> 1. unattended operations (at home or at a club)
Home is ok. Club stations requires an NoV.
> 2. tcp/ip specific legislation
None as such
> 3. Internet wormholes
Connection to a public network is illegal, tunneling over one is unclear
> 4. general digital legislation
> 5. general BBS legislation
Third party message storage like a BBS requires a notice of variation which
tends to include a callsign and frequency restrictions.
> 6. special calls required for any of above.
They come with the NoV.
Thats accurate as and when I got out of the amateur digital radio heap due
to a mix of bad attitudes and no interest from hams in improvement and the
fact that for most stuff its far simpler to use UK and EU license exempt
frquencies and equipment for stuff like real internet tunneling
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