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replacing the Internet in case of a war or something, until they quit
making us responsible for censoring everybody else's bad words and
commercialism). It is the nature of progress that not only does engineering
get more sophisticated but our hobbies do too. Some folks won't be able to
keep up but that doesn't preclude a handful of amateurs from making the next
few innovations either. Don't forget, complexity increases because
humanity in general likes it that way.
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_______ KB7PWD @ KC7Y.AZ.US.NOAM ecloud@goodnet.com
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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:39:47 -0500 (EST)
From: "Brian A. Lantz" <brian@lantz.com>
Subject: Flame-bait ..
nOn Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Terry Dawson wrote:
> Despite the fact that in retrospect it looks like flame-bait
> I wasn't intending to generate any public discussion at all.
> Sorry to have wasted peoples time/money/bandwidth/diskspace.
Terry, I think you have nothing to apologize for. You made a simple
request for some TECHNICAL input on an issue DIRECTLY related to this
mailing list's charter.
Too bad what occurred was neither technical nor related to the issue. A
discussion on PBBS forwarding really has no place here.
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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:02:22 -0700 (MST)
From: "Karl F. Larsen" <k5di@acca.nmsu.edu>
Subject: Ham Radio to me
I am tired of Hams who find the reason our hobby is declining is
something other Ham's are doing. It is, in fact due to external factors that
are out of our control. There is nothing we can do that will make Ham radio
more important than a cell telephone or the Internet.
At 62 years old I was hoping that Ham Radio as the hobby would keep
me busy and active in retirement. It has. But for sure I am a user and doer,
but not an inventor experimenter. I have a HF radio and use it. I have
several vhf-uhf radios and use them. I am a pbbs sysop and run Linux.
As summer approches I am looking over my fishing gear and checking
out the G5RV antenna in the trailer. My old "brain dead" 486sx laptop is now
running Linux and I will use it to write while listening to tapes in the
evening.
An old railroad Micor radio and Pac Comm Tiny-2 are on the floor.
The TNC has X1J-4 in it and it is here because a solder joint made by me was
cold. It will go back on the mountain as soon as the snow melts.
My best place to camp is Willow Creek in the Gila National Forest,
NM. Alas it is a valley with 3 rivers in it at an elevation of 8,500 feet
and you get zero tv and zero vhf radio but good HF radio. So a normal day is
the local net on 3939 MHz in the morning and the noon traffic net on 7240
MHz and the BBC Midnight News at 6pm local, while eating dinner.
WF5A, Karl Hess went to Africa last month and took his TS-50 and my
G5RV antenna and we kept in contact on 21.245 MHz. He was weak and the band
was bad but it worked. A hippo got into the feedline and ate part of it. But
it was repaired and seemed to work better...
All this to show that Ham Radio is important to me and does play a
part in keeping me happy. But nothing in this will attract a 12 year old boy
to our hobby. What I am doing is for old people of which I am one.
I am concerned about the Little Leo and other commo companies taking
the vhf/uhf/microwave frequencies from us. But perhaps they will not take it
all. We do need to have repeaters and packet things still on those
frequencies. But forget tcp/ip. I and some other hams have tried to make the
Hams here use JNOS and TNOS and now Linux tcp/ip. But it is a lost cause. I
have gone to other hams homes and set up JNOS and got it working. But the
ham never uses it. I have given demo's of it at the club and it puts them to
sleep.
The conclusion is that Ham radio will get smaller and smaller and
the users will get older and older and it will all die like model airplane
flying and throwing rocks into a creek. For some reason people want their
fun watching others do it on TV.
Now it is time to put on warm cloths and take my 5 kM walk with
Daisy, my 7 year old Doberman dog. I take my Alinco DJ-580 and do my talking
to others going to work or starting the day. As usual if you go to sleep
early you wake up early.
73, de Karl aka k5di
Karl F. Larsen Box 74, Mesilla Park, NM 88047 (505) 524-3303
k5di@k5di.cruces.nm.usa.noam k5di@acca.nmsu.edu k5di@juno.com
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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:18:38 -0500
From: misko@gaianet.net
Subject: Rules in your street
Hello folks,
First I want to thank you all for answering my previous faq's regarding
ham-related rules and regulations. Here you have another part of them:
Now I want to know if there are some written rules for "digital" hams,
i.e. folks working on packet, amtor etc. I wonder if...
1. Your authorities have right to asign some "special" callsigns to the
stations that are working as bbs's or nodes.
2. You have to use these asigned callsigns, even if you have your
licence
with your own call.
3. Your authorities might forbid your node/bbs activity if you are not
likely to accept the callsign asigned.
4. Your node/bbs callsign and alias have to remind users to the
city/town
(or anything else) where the system is working from.
5. Your are required from the authorities (or anybody else) to use
H-address
*.EURO instead of *.EU or vice versa.
6. There is some commision to monitor users' activities regarding rules
above. This commision makes or changes rules that all others have to
accept, even if they do not like them.
Pse respond before March 15th when our "rules" will be brought.
73 de Misko YT7MPB@YU7APV.SRB.YUG.EU
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