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TCP-Group Digest            Fri, 22 Nov 96       Volume 96 : Issue  246

Today's Topics:
         QUERY: *.ampr.org hosts and acceptable ip addresses
       World Intellectual Property Organization database treaty

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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 22:51:50 +0100 (MET)
From: Simon J Mudd <sjmudd@bitmailer.net>
Subject: QUERY: *.ampr.org hosts and acceptable ip addresses

A quick question perhaps someone can tell me the official stance.

Any Internet host can have more than one ip address.

a.domain IN A 1.2.3.4
a.domain IN A 5.6.7.8

would be valid, and an application would use the "nearest" ip address
possible when making a connection.

For machines connected to the ampr.org network, using 44.x.x.x addresses, 
is it considered acceptable to give them another non 44.x.x.x address if
this is a valid, registered ip address they have on the Internet?

Example is it ok to tell the robot which controls the ampr.org domain:

ea4rct.ampr.org  IN  A 44.133.28.76
ea4rct.ampr.org  IN  A 138.x.y.z    if this address is a real ip address?

Currently this machine is known as ea4rct.clubs.etsit.upm.es on the
138.x.x.x network, and this is a long name.  It would be nice, and easier
to configure the machine, if both ip addresses referred to the same
hostname, whether or not the current hostname continues to exist (which it
probably would).

Thoughts, suggestions, comments anyone?

regards,

Simon J Mudd, Madrid, SPAIN
e-mail: sjmudd@bitmailer.net

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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 12:10:00 -0000
From: mikebw@bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net (Mike Bilow)
Subject: World Intellectual Property Organization database treaty

I received this note forwarded by James Love (love@tap.org), a well-known
activist on public policy issues, and I thought you might be interested.
 
-- Mike


xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

>Message-ID: Pine.SUN.3.91.961121015346.21202F-100000@essential.essential.org
>Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 02:10:02 -0500 (EST)
>From: James Love <love@tap.org>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: gordoni@base.com (Gordon Irlam)
Subject: WIPO database treaty letter -- please sign

[Please feel free to forward this prior to Friday, 22nd November.]

The U.S. government is working to create an international treaty that
creates a dangerous new form of intellectual property that applies to
databases.  A database is defined as any non-trivial collection of
facts and information.  Copyright law already applies to databases.
This international treaty seeks to create new laws that limit people's
ability to make use databases.  In addition, none of the the fair use
provisions that apply in the case of copyright would apply to database
under this treaty.

I've drafted the following letter on the proposed database treaty.
I'll be sending it to the government on Thursday.  Please drop me or
wipo-signature@base.com an email immediately if you are willing to
allow me to include your name on this letter.  Please include a line
that looks like this:

    Gordon Irlam, Software Engineer -- Mountain View, California

along with a comment if there is anything about you that is
distinguishing, and may be worth noting.

Since the database proposal is being proposed as an international
treaty by the executive branch, the usual congressional public review
processes have been bypassed.  Unless this treaty is stopped,
irrespective of any independent assesment, congress will be required
to pass legislation that implements this treaty to fulfill
international obligations.

Currently the only opportunity for public comment on the proposed
treaty requires all comments be submitted by this Friday, November
22nd, 1996.

Comments against the proposed treaty have been, or are being filled
by:
    National Academy of Sciences
    Institute of Medicine
    Association of Research Libraries
    American Library Association
    Consumer Project on Technology
    The ad hoc Law Professors group

For more information on the treaty visit: http://www.public-domain.org/

                                              gordon
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[Draft letter.  Still subject to minor editorial revision, however, no
substantiative changes will be made.]

Mr. Keith Kupferschmid
United States Patent and Trademark Office


Dear Mr. Kupferschmid,

We are responding to the request published in the Federal Register of
October 17, 1996 for Comments on the Chairman's Text of the WIPO
Diplomatic Conference on Certain Copyright and Neighboring Rights
Questions.

These comments are directed at the Chairman's Text of the Basic
Proposal for the Substantive Provisions of the Treaty on Intellectual
Property in Respect of Databases.  We do not seek to offer comments on
any of the other proposals on the table at this conference.

As software developers, we are at the forefront of the National
Information Infrastructure (NII) and the emerging Global Information
Infrastructure (GII), and as such hope we may be able to offer a
number of insights into some of the possible effects of this treaty on
the NII and GII.

We believe that the Internet represents the foundations of the GII,
and as such we look to the Internet to assess the effects of the


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