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TCP-Group Digest            Tue,  8 Oct 96       Volume 96 : Issue  214

Today's Topics:
                      KISS for Windows (2 msgs)
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:06:41 +0100 (BST)
From: Alan Cox <alan@cymru.net>
Subject: KISS for Windows

> Some of us think the TNC ought to handle all that and simply connect
> to the computer (Mac/Unix/etc) via existing SL/IP or PPP interfaces.
> Would save re-inventing the wheel for The Operating System Of The
> Week.

That assumes your OS of the week doesnt have overshort DNS timeouts, poor
backoff algorithms, inability to cope with low speed links and 75 second
connect timeouts.

I too think the easy answer is a TNC that talks PPP - perhaps even with
an AX.25 over PPP spec added


Alan

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Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 19:31:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: David Kelly <dkelly@hiwaay.net>
Subject: KISS for Windows

On 17:06:41 Alan Cox wrote:
>>> Some of us think the TNC ought to handle all that and simply connect
>> to the computer (Mac/Unix/etc) via existing SL/IP or PPP interfaces.
>> Would save re-inventing the wheel for The Operating System Of The
>> Week.
>
>That assumes your OS of the week doesnt have overshort DNS timeouts, poor
>backoff algorithms, inability to cope with low speed links and 75 second
>connect timeouts.
>
>I too think the easy answer is a TNC that talks PPP - perhaps even with
>an AX.25 over PPP spec added

I've been thinking of this kind of thing for quite a while but haven't
had much time to *do* anything with it. While AF_AX25 provides a clean
connection for pure AX.25 network sockets in an OS, its unlikely IBM,
Apple, Sun, SGI, and Microsoft would bother to implement it. OTOH a
traditional IP connection to a Well Known Port could implement a
"virtual TNC" on that port. This might be implemented in a *NOS-style
program, or in the TNC itself. If one were to write a PBBS it wouldn't
be too hard for it to connect to the "virtual TNC" this way. Causual
users could telnet to the thing, maybe on the traditional telnet port
but on a unique IP address. Each user would get their own virtual
TNC complete with callsign. Not that I expect all that much of a "shared
network TNC" but if one is going to bother, one should design something
far away above what we currently have.

73,
--
David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@tomcat1.tbe.com (wk), dkelly@hiwaay.net (hm)
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The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its
capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system.

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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 19:08:50 -0400
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