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will ever become the network that some of us dreamed about. Too many things
have happened along the way, with the Internet explosion being one of the
most damaging to that dream network. I think that the future of the digital
modes in ham radio will have to be something other than a vast network
stretching from sea to sea.
Bruce n3gnn
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>From: Steve Sampson
>To: tcp-group
>Subject: Re: Networking and People
>Date: Monday, September 16, 1996 11:14AM
>
>Many years ago (probably about 6 or 7) there was a local Ham who
>went everywhere to all the Hamfests and club meetings, trying to
>organize the Hams into packet networking. He used the old
>corporation that existed and was still in effect, as the basis of
>getting commercial tower support (a power company). So the price
>was set at $25 a year membership. He probably would have agreed
>to less, but those he contacted seemed positive about the rate.
>His goal was to network the state at a minimum of 9600.
>
>Anyway, he probably got 4 subscriptions. The ARRL wasn't interested,
>nor were any of the emergency coordinator groups.
>
>Oklahoma only has about 3 or 4 population centers, so it wasn't
>going to be a big deal.
>
>After a year he finally moved on and gave up.
>
>I relate this story, as an example why there will never be a
>radio digital network of any value in this country. Number 1, the
>major organizations don't support it, number 2, no one knows what
>to do with it when it's built. The emergency coordinators have no
>plan to incorporate digital modes. These established organizations
>are CW and Pencil based. Most don't even have computers. Basically,
>you could drop a network on these peoples desk, and they wouldn't
>use it (couldn't).
>
>Today only FEMA has the most advanced capabilities, which leave these
>Amateur organizations relegated to serving cookies and soda-pop to
>the real people. If you want to know how to solve your emergency
>management problem, look at those big FEMA trucks with Sat dishes.
>Very impressive, very effective. Packet radio looks like CW in
>comparison.
>
>FWIW
>
>Steve
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 96 03:31:16 EDT
From: yv4ti@yv5nsf.ampr.org
Subject: suggestion
Usually, when I want to know which
stations are in a channel I must use
the '/W' command, but that produces an
unnecesary traffic that congest the
local net.
I belive that the best way to solve
that would be introducing a command
into the program to list ONLY the
stations of a specific channel; for
example:
/WC 77 => List the stations present
in channel 77
73 & Good Luck from Henry...
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 00:45:27 +0100 (BST)
From: root <root@ns.bogo.co.uk>
Subject: wampes hpux.c compile
Hi Im having problems to compile the latest wampes src
I get this error:
Any idears what is not correctly ported to linux im useing
linux 2.0.20 libc-5.0.9 gcc 2.7.0
also why does hpux seems to be needed for Linux ?
Thanks Michael root@web-uk.net
chmod 755 cc
make[1]: Entering directory `/tcp/src'
gcc -O6 -DUNIX -I./linux_include -I../lib -c hpux.c
hpux.c: In function `on_read':
hpux.c:309: `chkread' undeclared (first use this function)
hpux.c:309: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
hpux.c:309: for each function it appears in.)
hpux.c:310: `actread' undeclared (first use this function)
hpux.c: In function `off_read':
hpux.c:320: `chkread' undeclared (first use this function)
hpux.c:321: `actread' undeclared (first use this function)
hpux.c: In function `off_write':
hpux.c:348: `chkread' undeclared (first use this function)
hpux.c: At top level:
hpux.c:68: storage size of `chkwrite' isn't known
hpux.c:69: storage size of `actwrite' isn't known
make[1]: [hpux.o] Error 1 (ignored)
Linking net ...
gcc: hpux.o: No such file or directory
make[1]: [net] Error 1 (ignored)
make[1]: Leaving directory `/tcp/src'
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