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sysops and build hardware.

Some files of interest are available for anonymous FTP from JNOS box:
ljutcp.hamradio.si

It is heavily loaded JNOS, so it is often QRT.

directory s5_intro:

0readme.txt         771 17:23  2/09/96   
1m2bitqr.txt     19,995 18:25  7/14/95 first 1.2 Mbit/sec QSOs
how2use.sv        8,092  4:59  9/04/95 how 2 use SV node
net23cm.txt      12,867  5:31  9/04/95 old text file
pcb.arj          90,591 10:41  9/05/95 may be some PCBs ??
prmaps5.gif     167,131  9:55  6/23/96 packet map of Slovenia
svv72.m68       139,343  3:07 10/17/95 SV sources in Motorola format   
svv72.asm       138,007  2:56 10/17/95 same in S53MV format
wb.txt              419  9:09  8/02/95   
wb.arj          176,899  6:51  2/09/95 PS files for 70cm WBFM radio and SV 
wbfm-sch.arj     45,329 10:42  9/05/95 simmilar


Please note: These are HAM and Hobby projects. It is fun building a
network, but it is not fun copying and mailing articles... 
All PCBs are available here, but it is not easy to send abroad: Our
bureaucracy ask as to fill up zillion of papers for such mail.

Also, due to small quantity PCBs are expensive here. There is no serious
attemps to make boxes commercial - designs would not pass type approvals.
It is exactly what HAM QRGs should be: experimentation, selfeducation etc.

My personal opinion is that all our projects are worth checking, but 
radios shall be redesigned locally to match material available, skills
available and estimated number of buld radios. 

What we prooved is that HAMs can build cheap and fast network, and that
Megabits/sec over radios is not some distant future.


Best 73, gl de Iztok S52D, WU2D, OK8ANP

ham: S52D @S50BOX.SVN.EU
ham: s52d@ljutcp.hamradio.si
qrl: Iztok@mobitel.si

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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 08:47:10 +1000
From: Terry Dawson <terry@perf.no.itg.telstra.com.au>
Subject: advanced networking: Slovenia

Iztok Saje wrote:

> What we prooved is that HAMs can build cheap and fast network, and that
> Megabits/sec over radios is not some distant future.

Excellent. We don't hear from you guys very often. You should speak
up more often.

Are there any restrictions on the copying/duplication/modification of
the designs at all ?

Terry

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Date: Sun, 01 Sep 96 07:39:00 -0000
From: mikebw@bilow.bilow.uu.ids.net (Mike Bilow)
Subject: PPP/SLIP in connected AX25?

Steve Sampson wrote in a message to Mike Bilow:

 SS> Maybe the thing to do, would be to make a daughter board that 
 SS> plugged into the Z-80 socket.  On it would be an 8088 :-)

The NEC V20 can take on the personality of either an 8088 or a Z-80.
 
-- Mike

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Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 15:47:05 +0100 (BST)
From: Jonathan Naylor <g4klx@g4klx.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Radio Links and AX.25 backoff

On Fri, 30 Aug 1996, Steve Sampson wrote:
> Evidently my sense of humor is poor.

The British sense of humour is unique.

>                                      What I was getting at, was that
> the speeds above 9600 don't need all that hand-holding to make the
> conversion to RF.  This was in line with the 56k PI2/Gracilis discussion
> before we all returned to 1200 reality and the serial protocols...

What 56k PI2/Gracilis discussion ? I think you were getting TCP Group and 
Linux Hams confused. I do not take TCP Group and the discussion on Linux 
Hams was in a different direction. I would not disagree with your point 
about higher speeds where (I would hope) all the links would be full 
duplex or at least not simplex.

We had a very good demonstration by Matt G6WPJ at UKIP 8 this weekend of 
his new high speed TNC/Regenerative repeater working at 38k with 56k as 
an option, combining that with some interesting German 23cms radio kits, 
points to the future.

> > In the meantime I am more concerned in dealing with todays problems and
> > producing usable software, rather than *talking* about some theoretical
> > utopian packet radio future. 
> 
> I'm hoping the Part 97 rules will allow the use of chips designed for
> unlicensed bands.  Manufacturers could offer two models, 1w and 25w
> RF modems.

Whats Part 97 ? I assume its something to do with the FCC.

> ---
> Steve
> mailto:ssampson@othello.tinker.af.mil
> http://www.oklahoma.net/~ssampson

Jonathan

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| e-mail: jsn@cs.nott.ac.uk        | Telephone: +44 (0) 973 695261         |
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|           Author of Linux kernel AX.25 and NET/ROM and Rose.             |
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Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 08:33:24 +1000
From: Terry Dawson <terry@perf.no.itg.telstra.com.au>
Subject: TCP-Group Digest V96 #175

John Paul Morrison wrote:

> Whatever happened to 2.88 MB floppies? That's still probably too
> small for a router with bells and whistles.

I think you're confusing router with server. What bells and whistles
would
you want on a router that would consume that much space ?

Terry

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