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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Thursday, August 21, 2003.
1. CushCraft R-5 Vertical; HELLLP!
2. RE: SoCal APRS inundated by accidental ?IGATE? query - is this supposed to
happen?
3. Re: ICONS
4. Re: ICONS
5. Re: emergency comms?
6. Voice Alert Tid-Bit
7. Re: winAPRS, which sproul?
8. Re: ICONS
9. Re: ICONS
10. Re: ICONS
11. Civil Emergency Messages
12. Re: ICONS
13. Re: Civil Emergency Messages
14. Re: Civil Emergency Messages
15. Re: ICONS
16. Re: Civil Emergency Messages
17. Re: ICONS
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Subject: CushCraft R-5 Vertical; HELLLP!
From: "Matthew Stennett" <wa4tkg@iwon.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 00:41:33 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 1
Do you have one of these verticals?
If so, and you have a digital camera, I would LOVE to hear from you.....I
need to know WHERE the little wire mesh "jumper " wire is supposed to
go.....there is a small wire mesh jumper wire, with two solder lugs, one on
each end.. I can't remember where it is supposed to be on the antenna.
Anyone help here?, a scanned copy of the MANUAL would be nice, if
possible..
TX
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Subject: RE: SoCal APRS inundated by accidental ?IGATE? query - is this
supposed to happen?
From: KC7ZRU <kc7zru@arrl.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 22:47:20 -0600
X-Message-Number: 2
Scott Miller wrote:
>How new does it have to be? I see some 2.2.3 responses in my log. Is
>development moving on aprsd again? For a while it seemed like the only
>version available was 2.1.4, and it took a few months to get a response on
>my bugfix for 64-bit machines.
>
>Scott
>N1VG
The latest version of aprsd available on the sourceforge site is
2.2.5-14. -14 was released, according to the site, in May of this year.
There's no reason I can think of for anyone to avoid upgrading to -14.
Doesn't mean there isn't one, I just don't know of it.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/aprsd/
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Subject: Re: ICONS
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:33:29 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 3
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Curt Mills, WE7U wrote:
>Stormwatch? I can't recall whether or not that symbol is new.
Never heard of it.
Since storm watches cover an area, an ICON in my opinioin is useless. The
AREA icon should be used and the area covered should be the
thing that is displayed.
Or am I missing something?
Bob
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Subject: Re: ICONS
From: "Christensen, Eric" <CHRISTENSENE@MAIL.ECU.EDU>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:36:07 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4
I agree... The icon that is put in the "middle" of the area box should be
the T-Storm symbol or a Flood symbol or... What kind of storm will is the
stormwatch symbol supposed to represent?
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Subject: Re: emergency comms?
From: JD Erskine <VA7OTC@rac.ca>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:02:27 -0700
X-Message-Number: 5
At 06:48 13/08/03 -0700, Kevin Deckert wrote:
>During the recent wildfire events here with such tragic results we have
>learned many things about emergency communications.
>With a backbone of mountain top vhf and APRS repeaters the question
>arose about packet. We discussed using the APRS digis locally to
>establish an emergency packet net for moving info. Is this overly
>offensive to anyone?
>(All comments aside if events continue as they have been we will use
>packet on the aprs system locally.) Our digi's are remote mountain top
>sites with difficult access and solar power.
>I suppose this is more of a notice "of intent" more than a question.
>VE7WHK, Kevin, Emergency Comms, Thompson River Amateur Radio
Kevin,
Can your area make use of TPARCs network?
http://www3.telus.net/mike_sankey/index.htm
http://www3.telus.net/mike_sankey/connecting_to_the_available_serv.htm
Access is avail at 1200 Baud, trunking 9600 or better. ROSE switches used
so a bit different from NETROM, TheNET or Kantronics, however it's a good
connected network. Can get in to PEP in Victoria or Kamloops and probably
find a connect to pass stuff to Min of Forests in Vic if necessary.
Addresses use the two area codes 250 and 604.
http://www.karc.ca/gateway.htm
http://www.karc.ca/packmap.gif
If you need HF digital check the lower part of this page
http://narc.net/epc1-info.html
DHM should be up regularly
http://www.hazard.net/hfemail/
http://www.hazard.net/hfemail/sites.html
73, JD
John D. Erskine
mailto:VA7OTC@rac.ca or mailto:sailargh@victoria.tc.ca
Victoria Nautical Song Circle http://victoria.tc.ca/Culture/Vnsc/
Island Thyme Morris http://www.islandnet.com/~jcarver/is_thyme.html
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Subject: Voice Alert Tid-Bit
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:38:42 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 6
If you are running Voice Alert (Using CTCSS to mute your 144.39 speaker)
dont forget that the SQUELCH knob still has a function even though it does
not make any difference to what you hear on the speaker (which is usually
99.9% nothing)...
If you "open" the squelch knob (even though you dont hear anything),
you are causing a permanent "busy" to the TNC and you will never transmit.
A friend just called at whits end, becsue his positions are 5 days old on
FINDU... We traced the problem to the constant "busy" showing on his
Band-A.
Bob, WB4APR
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Subject: Re: winAPRS, which sproul?
From: Mark Sproul <msproul@jove.rutgers.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:37:12 -0400
X-Message-Number: 7
The preferred address to reach me is
kb2ici@amsat.org
Mark
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Subject: Re: ICONS
From: "Doug Younker" <dougy@ruraltel.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:51:52 -0500
X-Message-Number: 8
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christensen, Eric" <CHRISTENSENE@MAIL.ECU.EDU>
To: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 9:36 AM
Subject: [aprssig] Re: ICONS
: I agree... The icon that is put in the "middle" of the area box should be
: the T-Storm symbol or a Flood symbol or... What kind of storm will is the
: stormwatch symbol supposed to represent?
Perhaps it has utility as general type of alert? In the manner that some
amateur repeaters say"storm warnings: or those with out voice have a
differant courtesy tone when there are warnings for the area. Broadcast
stations have a periodic tone to alert listeners to warnings are issued.--73
Doug, N0LKK
dougy@ruraltel.net
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Subject: Re: ICONS
From: "Christensen, Eric" <CHRISTENSENE@MAIL.ECU.EDU>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:21:07 -0400
X-Message-Number: 9
But there isn't such a monster in the NWS world. When the NWS sends out a
warning, watch, or advisory they include what kind of bulletin the are
sending out. They have bulletins for everything known to man... But that
does spark another question that I have about wxserv...
Eric
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Subject: Re: ICONS
From: Henk de Groot <henk.de.groot@hetnet.nl>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:09:37 +0200
X-Message-Number: 10
Hello,
Small addition...
At 16:59 20-8-03 -0400, Bob Bruninga wrote:
>And recommended DIGI overlays:
>
>OVERLAY MEANING
>------- ---------------------------------------------
> R RELAY ONLY
> W WIDE only
> T RELAY,WIDE,TRACE with callsign substitution
> N R,W,T and WIDEn-N with NOID
> I R,W,T and WIDEn-N with ID
> U all of the above with UIDIGI
D all of the above with optional information service,
sat-tracking and traffic reduction with DIGI_NED
or as oneliner:
D advanced "N" type with message response capability (DIGI_NED)
Kind regards,
Henk.
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Subject: Civil Emergency Messages
From: "Christensen, Eric" <CHRISTENSENE@MAIL.ECU.EDU>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:25:19 -0400
X-Message-Number: 11
Dale,
Are Civil Emergency Messages being parsed in your server??? I think they
are "CEM" messages. If so, how do they "look" on the map?
Eric
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Subject: Re: ICONS
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:27:34 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 12
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Doug Younker wrote:
>Perhaps it has utility as general type of alert? In the manner that some
>amateur repeaters say"storm warnings: or those with out voice have a
>differant courtesy tone when there are warnings for the area. Broadcast
>stations have a periodic tone to alert listeners to warnings are issued.
In APRS, the problem is that an ICON occupies a fixed exact coordinate on
the surface of the earth. If there is nothing physically at that
location, then there should be no APRS ICON there...
Wathces and Warnings cover an "area", thus APRS has AREA type mechanisms
for such applications. (APRS also has position ambiguity for similar
vague references, but since not all authors implemented position
ambiguity correctly, it cannot be reliably used)...
WB4APR
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