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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Wednesday, August 20, 2003.
1. Re: Interface Idea for old KPC-3's
2. Re: APRSfl.net - fourth.aprs.net - status update...
3. Re: PCsat still ticking...
4. Re: Big brother in everyday life, and it's us!
5. Re: Big brother in everyday life, and it's us!
6. SoCal APRS inundated by accidental ?IGATE? query - is this supposed to
happen?7. Re: Black Box retrieval tool (Was: Big Brother)
8. Re: Black Box retrieval tool (Was: Big Brother)
9. RE: SoCal APRS inundated by accidental ?IGATE? query - is this supposed to
happen?
10. Re: Black Box retrieval tool (Was: Big Brother)
11. Re: Black Box retrieval tool (Was: Big Brother)
12. Re: Black Box retrieval tool (Was: Big Brother)
13. Re: Big brother in everyday life, and it's us!
14. Re: Big brother in everyday life, and it's us!
15. Re: Black Box retrieval tool (Was: Big Brother)
16. Re: Black Box retrieval tool (Was: Big Brother)
17. RE: SoCal APRS inundated by accidental ?IGATE? query - is this supposed to
happen?
18. RE: SoCal APRS inundated by accidental ?IGATE? query - is this supposed to
happen?
19. Re: Big brother in everyday life, and it's us!
20. Re: Big brother in everyday life, and it's us!
21. D7 Power requirements:
22. Re: Big brother in everyday life, and it's us!
23. Re: Big brother in everyday life, and it's us!
24. Ultimeter 2000 Serial Cable
25. Re: Ultimeter 2000 Serial Cable
26. ICONS
27. Re: Black Box retrieval tool (Was: Big Brother)
28. Need an old callsign looked up...
29. Need an email addy...
30. Re: ICONS
31. Re: Ultimeter 2000 Serial Cable
32. winAPRS, which sproul?
33. Re: ICONS
34. Cheap pen computer
35. RE: Cheap pen computer
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Subject: Re: Interface Idea for old KPC-3's
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:39:09 +1000
X-Message-Number: 1
I have already done this
GPSiiTNC
http://www.tech-software.net
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Subject: Re: APRSfl.net - fourth.aprs.net - status update...
From: Steve Dimse <k4hg@tapr.org>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:45:34 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2
On 8/19/03 at 9:32 PM Jon Anhold <jon@snoopy.net> sent:
>Hearing Steve mention that third is no longer useful as it's connect limit
>is too low twice now, I have shut it off.
A little notice would have been better, but thanks for stepping aside.
Since many people did not update connect lists to include fourth, I moved
fourth up to third.
If anyone is running a box that can handle 150 connections or so, let me
know, so we can go back to a 4 server core.
Thanks,
Steve K4HG
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Subject: Re: PCsat still ticking...
From: "M. Schneider" <msokla@brightok.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:50:42 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3
PCsat: The Little Sat That Could...and Could....and Could!
It's a shame there's no way to recover it and put it in a museum, after the
way it's performed, it deserves better than to eventually burn up on
reentry. A big pat on the back to Bob, the midshipmen at the U.S. Naval
Academy at Annapolis, and all others involved in this little bird's life.
Ya'll done good!
PCsat 2 (Son of PCsat?) has a pretty big pair of shoes to fill!
Mark Schneider - K5MAR
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Subject: Re: Big brother in everyday life, and it's us!
From: Henk de Groot <henk.de.groot@hetnet.nl>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:01:47 +0200
X-Message-Number: 4
Hallo all,
At 14:00 19-8-03 -0700, Michael Harpe wrote:
>I have to admit that my first thought is that anyone
>who is doing something they should not be doing, legal
>or otherwise, with a GPS and an APRS station running
>in the car kind of deserves what they get.
I see no problem if the only possible use is to do justice. The big risk
however is abuse of the information and the system. For example a thief can
use the information from my APRS tracker to asses whether or not it is save
to "visit" my home. Also a criminal gang can fake tracks to frame somebody
else for a crime.
When a black box in the car records everything, you can bet that kits will
appear on the black market to disable that function, which means a new type
of criminal activity will emerge. Just like that commander who wanted to
have a fuse on his APRS tracker. In case of an excident the police can give
a ticket for disabeling the function, but they can't proof speeding that
way anymore.
Every new tool has a side-effects, you have to asses everything to judge if
it is worthwhile to add a new tool and if it is going to help to reduce
criminal activity, instead of boost it in another direction.
By the way, trucks in Europe all have a "tachometer" for many, may years
that records both time and speed. This is meant for law enforcement, mainly
to measure if the driver takes his mandatory rest after a few hours
driving. It also records speed and is admissible as evidence (the
tachometers are calibrated and have measures against tampering). Besides
that trucks in Europe all have a speed limiter which kicks in at at most 90
km/h (allowed speed by law is 80 km/h). The latter is a real annoyance when
two trucks with only a minor speed difference take over, it takes many,
many kilometers to do so. Cars queue up behind the trucks and the speed
advantage for the trucker is neglegible, but that does not prevent the
truckers from doing so. Therefore during rush hour it is forbidden on most
parts of the highway for trucks to take over.
Maybe instead of recording and tracking speed you could just build in a
speed limiter in each and every car and make it a crime to disable that.
With GPS assistance you can even make the maximum possible speed allowed by
the limiter addapt to the road you are on...
Maybe it is nice to have an option in findu to see who is speeding, a worst
abuse of maximum speed limit "hall of shame"... For the US it should be
easy to make (or are there state differences?). For Europe it would be a
lot harder, in the Netherlands there is a speed limit of 120 km/h on
highways, but in Germany there is no limit for cars (only an advice not to
driver faster than 130 km/h).
Kind regards,
Henk.
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Subject: Re: Big brother in everyday life, and it's us!
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 07:48:48 -0400
X-Message-Number: 5
Well, actually I didn't mean to use the accident as the whole case, but as
the example for the case. Just that information can be more valuable than
money, depending on your motivations. And that with APRS we potentially
could be opening ourselves up to liabilities.
And as a second issue in that it's not just us. How many people even
realize that with OBD2 in their vehicles, everyone has this black box? I
don't think there's a consumer auto produced since just about 1995 without
OBD2.
Hmm, do the tractor trailers have it?
Anyway, in the past, GM has countered attempts to use this kind of info in
most cases with arguments that it's not certified, that it's whatever, but
this case here I think will cross bounds.
All I'm saying is that we may be at the cutting edge of how privacy is
lost. One thing to consider... Sooner or later there WILL be 'test cases'
where the decision to get the box from a vehicle will be a gray area. And
it's hard to argue that's an invasion of privacy if the same vehicle is
APRS active!
As to...
>3) Janklow has received at least 16 traffic related citations in the last
>10 years and numerous parking tickets. South Dakota seals traffic
>citations after 10 years, so he probably has more. As I wondered here
>before, as a 4 time governor, how many times has he been pulled over
>and not cited due to his position?
I've heard his driving history goes back even further and is more
colorful. But that he has been citation free since about 1994.
And I've also heard he's a diabetic... That can have ramifications as
well.
Mike
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Subject: SoCal APRS inundated by accidental ?IGATE? query - is this supposed to
happen?
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:15:20 EDT
X-Message-Number: 6
I accidentally triggered the ?IGATE? query in UI-View 1.94 when I hurriedly
went to send an object (it's the next item down in a pulldown menu).
I thought this kind of query is supposed to identify only local igates
reachable by RF.
Instead, apparently the query passed into one or more igates, propagated
all over the world via the Internet, triggered responses from literally all
over the planet which were reverse gated back to RF here in southern Cal.
The resulting onslaught completely paralyzed 144.39 throughout southern Cal
for almost 5 minutes non-stop!
This was entirely via RF; there was no Internet connection activated in
this copy of UI-View.
Here's a partial listing of what poured back into my UI-View message window:
W0BX-2 =B3<A>W0BX-2 Lincoln_NE greenbird 127.0.0.0 w0bx@netscape.net aprsd
2.1.4.vk3sb.2
PE1JPD =B3<A>PE1JPD Hilversum_PA sys1.pe1jpd.ampr.org 44.137.37.33
pe1jpd@amsat.org aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
APRSDMAF =B3<A>KD5HAD Odessa aprsd.local 192.168.1.2 james@jmartin.net aprsd
2.1.4
APRSDERS =B3<A>KG9NI Madison_WI ralph.home.kg9ni.net 192.168.1.9 kg9ni@arrl.net
aprsd 2.1.5a10
W9YT =B3<A>W9YT-3 Madison_WI w9yt.engr.wisc.edu 128.104.187.127
wo9u@arrl.net aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.1
APRSDUTB =B3<A>OK1KYU-14 Prague_CZ aprsdutb.iol.cz 194.228.21.78 _tomas@ct.cz_
aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2.dl5di.4
APRSHB9OK=B3<A>HB9OK-11 Lugano_CH linux.hb9ok.org 194.209.20.49
hb9dhg@ticino.com aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.1
LX0APS =B3<A>LX0APS Rodange_LX lx0net.rlx.lu 195.46.231.70 aprs@rlx.lu aprsd
2.1.4.vk3sb.2.dl5di.4
APRSDTUS =B3<A>KV4OA Tucson_AZ packet.kvoa.com 204.17.32.4 n7ck@packet.kvoa.com
aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
APRSDYARS=B3<A>N6SPE-1 Davis_CA penguin.internal.vgl.ucdavis.edu 10.100.100.24
shayne@ucdavis.edu aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.1
APRSDNQN =B3<A>LU7YW-2 Centenario_Neuquen_Arg radio.neuquen.ampr.org
200.16.245.244 sysop@neuquen.ampr.org aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.1
CS1SEL =B3<A>CS1SEL Lisboa hamradio.isel.ipl.pt 10.64.137.96
rsmatias@alunos.isel.pt aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
SV2DFR-12=B3<A>SV2DFR-12 Thessaloniki lab2_scan.uom.gr 195.251.211.80
artina@yahoo.gr aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2.dl5di.4
APRSDROM =B3<A>VE7ROM-15 Kelowna_BC zork.platinum.net 0.0.0.0 ve7rom@rac.ca
aprsd 2.2.3
APRSDLBB =B3<A>KC5IBY-3 Lubbock_TX shasta192.168.1.6 216.74.69.154
jeff.walsh@ttu.edu aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.1
APRSDBUF =B3<A>N2NJH-3 Buffalo_NY hamgate.net 199.29.6.50 n2njh@arrl.net aprsd
2.1.4
APRSDLON =B3<A>VE3TEJ-10 London_Ontario linux.local 192.168.0.0
ve3tej@rogers.com aprsd 2.1.4
KG6PFX-15=B3<A>KG6PFX-15 SanLuisObispo_CA_US brdr0-fe0.slo.slotechs.com
192.168.100.250 aprsd@kg6pfx.org aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.1
APRSDSAP =B3<A>HR2KOS San_Pedro_Sula hr2kos.globalnet.hn 206.48.254.149
hr2kos@hr2kos.ampr.org aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
APRSDSZE =B3<A>HG8PSZ-10 Szeged hg8psz.admin.u-szeged.hu 160.114.42.2
ha8fn@ha5kfu.hu aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
W0BX-2 =B3<A>W0BX-2 Lincoln_NE greenbird 127.0.0.0 w0bx@netscape.net aprsd
2.1.4.vk3sb.2
CT0XUL =B3<A>CT0XUL V.N.Famalicao radio 127.0.0.0 ribeiro@fam.ulusiada.pt
aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
APRSDSZE =B3<A>HG8PSZ-10 Szeged hg8psz.admin.u-szeged.hu 160.114.42.2
ha8fn@ha5kfu.hu aprsd 2.1.4.vk3
SV1CPO-10=B3<A>SV1CPO-10 Agrinio sv1.pgcom.gr 213.5.193.22
sv1cpo@agrinio.ampr.org aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb
SV2DFR-12=B3<A>SV2DFR-12 Thessaloniki lab2_scan.uom.gr 195.251.211.80
artina@yahoo.gr aprsd 2.1.4.vk
APRSDUTB =B3<A>OK1KYU-14 Prague_CZ aprsdutb.iol.cz 194.228.21.78 _tomas@ct.cz_
aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2.dl
APRSDROM =B3<A>VE7ROM-15 Kelowna_BC zork.platinum.net 0.0.0.0 ve7rom@rac.ca
aprsd 2.2.3
APRSDYARS=B3<A>N6SPE-1 Davis_CA penguin.internal.vgl.ucdavis.edu 10.100.100.24
shayne@ucdavis.edu ap
APRSDBUF =B3<A>N2NJH-3 Buffalo_NY hamgate.net 199.29.6.50 n2njh@arrl.net aprsd
2.1.4
APRSDSVR =B3<A>OK2UAF-14 Svratouch aprsgate 0.0.0.0 m.gr@atlas.cz aprsd
2.1.4.vk3sb.2.dl5di.4
DG8KBR =B3<A>DG8KBR Cologne/Germany amanda.rowi.net 192.168.21.80
dg8kbr@rowitech.de aprsd 2.1.4
W5MPZ-1 =B3<A><IGATE MSG_CNT=19987 LOC_CNT=23 FILL_CNT=0
CS1SEL =B3<A>CS1SEL Lisboa hamradio.isel.ipl.pt 10.64.137.96
rsmatias@alunos.isel.pt aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
APRSDERS =B3<A>KG9NI Madison_WI ralph.home.kg9ni.net 192.168.1.9 kg9ni@arrl.net
aprsd 2.1.5a10
APRSDBNA1=B3<A>KG4NRC-98 Nashville_TN first 127.0.0.0
sysadmin@nashvilleaprs.net aprsd 2.1.5a7-tt
APRSDSZE =B3<A>HG8PSZ-10 Szeged hg8psz.admin.u-szeged.hu 160.114.42.2
ha8fn@ha5kfu.hu aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
APRSDUTB =B3<A>OK1KYU-14 Prague_CZ aprsdutb.iol.cz 194.228.21.78 _tomas@ct.cz_
aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2.dl5di.4
APRSDMAF =B3<A>KD5HAD Odessa aprsd.local 192.168.1.2 james@jmartin.net aprsd
2.1.4
APRSDCLT1=B3<A>WA4SAS-12 Charlotte_NC RFLINKUP.COM 192.168.1.200
WA4SAS@rflinkup.com aprsd 2.1.4
LX0APS =B3<A>LX0APS Rodange_LX lx0net.rlx.lu 195.46.231.70 aprs@rlx.lu aprsd
2.1.4.vk3sb.2.dl5di.4
APRSDTUS =B3<A>KV4OA Tucson_AZ packet.kvoa.com 204.17.32.4 n7ck@packet.kvoa.com
aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
W9YT =B3<A>W9YT-3 Madison_WI w9yt.engr.wisc.edu 128.104.187.127
wo9u@arrl.net aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.1
CT0XUL =B3<A>CT0XUL V.N.Famalicao radio 127.0.0.0 ribeiro@fam.ulusiada.pt
aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
CALTAPRSD=B3<A>IR9CAL-11 Caltagirone_I ari.asicalatino.it 192.168.0.0
aprs@aricaltagirone.za.org aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
CS1SEL =B3<A>CS1SEL Lisboa hamradio.isel.ipl.pt 10.64.137.96
rsmatias@alunos.isel.pt aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
APRSDBNA1=B3<A>KG4NRC-98 Nashville_TN first 127.0.0.0
sysadmin@nashvilleaprs.net aprsd 2.1.5a7-tt
APRSDSZE =B3<A>HG8PSZ-10 Szeged hg8psz.admin.u-szeged.hu 160.114.42.2
ha8fn@ha5kfu.hu aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
APRSDMAF =B3<A>KD5HAD Odessa aprsd.local 192.168.1.2 james@jmartin.net aprsd
2.1.4
APRSDCLT1=B3<A>WA4SAS-12 Charlotte_NC RFLINKUP.COM 192.168.1.200
WA4SAS@rflinkup.com aprsd 2.1.4
APRSDTUS =B3<A>KV4OA Tucson_AZ packet.kvoa.com 204.17.32.4 n7ck@packet.kvoa.com
aprsd 2.1.4.vk3sb.2
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com
Ham Radio/Mobile SSTV page: http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/ham
APRS Stuff
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