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Subject:  Balloon over WV heading East!
From: "KENT HUFFORD" <khufford@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:56:52 -0400
X-Message-Number: 20

It JUST crossed into WV at 50,380 feet (1956L). I can hear it direct in
Woodbridge VA.

Kent
KQ4KK

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Subject: DX packets
From: Bill Vodall - WA7NWP <wa7nwp@jnos.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:04:34 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 21

Speaking of packet openings...   Anybody on here in the Atascadero,
California, area that can confirm if WA5VGI and W6FM are live on the air on
144.95 MHz?  I'm guessing it may be a packet cluster system there.

I found the following in my heard list:

 WA5VGI-15  lan105    10   Thu May 29 21:18:04
 W6FM-1     lan105     7   Thu May 29 21:15:01

If that truly came in on RF, it must have been a heck of an opening to
bring in 17 packets all the way to Redmond, Wa.  My rig on 144.95 is an 15
year old FT-203 HT and a CX-333 tri-band vertical.

Thanks,

Bill - WA7NWP

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Subject: Re: Balloon over WV heading East!
From: "Douglas Quagliana" <dquagliana@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 00:05:02 +0000
X-Message-Number: 22

At approximately 8PM EST the balloon crossed over the Ohio/West Virginia
state line.  The balloon was still at approximately 50,000 feet.  Raw 
packet:

KC8UCH-11>APT202,RELAY,WIDE,WIDE,qAR,W8DRO-1:
!3926.29N/08109.30WO140/020/A=050380

Here's some additional links you can use to track the balloon:

1) Up to the minute position report on the balloon:

http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=KC8UCH-11

2) Breadcrumb trail of the balloon's path with Pittsburgh weather radar 
overlay:

http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/breadcrumb.cgi?call=kc8uch-11&geo=rad_pbz.geo

3) Complete map of the US with breadcrumb trail of the balloon's path:

http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/breadcrumb.cgi?call=kc8uch-11&zoom=3

Some interesting packets (note the VE3 callsigns) while the balloon was
west and a little south of Columbus, Ohio.

KC8UCH-11>APT202,VE3KSR,VE3YAP*,WIDE,qAR,VE3ZRD*:!3947.69N/08147.66WO136/008/A=1
05440

and when the balloon was 22.4 miles northeast of PARKERSBURG, WV
KC8UCH-11>APT202,W2ICZ-2*,WIDE,WIDE,qAR,VE3ZRD*:
!3930.23N/08115.64WO121/017/A=050764

Does anyone know the callsigns of the chase vehicles and whether or
not the chase vehicles are running APRS?

Douglas D. Quagliana
dquagliana@hotmail.com

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Subject: Re: Balloon over WV heading East!
From: "KENT HUFFORD" <khufford@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:19:00 -0400
X-Message-Number: 23

I called Bob Rochte, KC8UCH, he says there are no chase vehicles. He did
not think it would go this far.

Kent
KQ4KK

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Subject: Re: hidden transmitter problems - PHGR query
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:29:56 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 24

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Bill Vodall - WA7NWP wrote:

>The "R/rate" field  only applies to the packets actually containing
>the "PHGR" entry?   That way we don't have to worry about all the
>unscheduled packets such as Wx, Telemetry, etc being generated?

Yes, since only the POSIT packet has the PHGR field in it and that is at
a fixed rate, then the statistics are real for that packet.

Bob

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Subject: In-Vehicle Terminal
From: "Darryl Smith" <Darryl@radio-active.net.au>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 10:34:23 +1000
X-Message-Number: 25

People

I am looking for a commercial In-Vehicle programmable terminal that I can
use for a tracking job I am working on - similar to the type of thing used
by Taxi's without the TNC built in. Basically I am probably looking for
something with 2-4 lines of up to 40 characters, with at least 6 buttons.
Oh, and it has to be fairly rugged, and at least two serial ports, and
programmable...

If anyone can suggest something that meets this spec, could they email me
please.

Many thanks - Darryl

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Darryl Smith, VK2TDS   POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia
Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International] 
Darryl@radio-active.net.au | www.radio-active.net.au  

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Subject: Balloon
From: James Smith <k9apr@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 19:34:40 -0500
X-Message-Number: 26

I've logged 1004 packets from it since 8:01:18 am when it was at 6,643' 
and still getting in locally from our digi's here in East Central 
Indiana....

-- 
73, James, K9APR                 Webmaster                      Webmaster
Chairman \ Coordinator           Indiana Repeater Council       Henry Co.
Amateur Radio Club
Tri-State APRS Working Group     http://www.ircinc.org         
http://www.qsl.net/hcara
http://www.tawg.org
mailto:k9apr@tawg.org
Run a APRS Website? Why not join the APRS Webring. http://www.tawg.org/join.htm

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Subject: Re: Balloon over WV heading East!
From: "KENT HUFFORD" <khufford@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:39:54 -0400
X-Message-Number: 27

Its at 47,000 feet heading for Weston WV

Kent
KQ4KK
703-494-3063

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Subject: Re: Balloon over WV heading East!
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@home.miller.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:45:17 -0700
X-Message-Number: 28

Is he asking for help with recovery?  I know folks in western VA who might
be able to help if it comes down in those parts, and the further east it
goes the more APRS-equipped folks should be around.  Until it's out over the
Atlantic, anway.  =]

What's this thing expected to do at night?  I see it's already descended
below 46,000 ft.

Scott
N1VG

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Subject: Re: Balloon over WV heading East!
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@home.miller.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:55:00 -0700
X-Message-Number: 29

Just for the heck of it I plotted the altitude and airspeed of the balloon
over the period of 06:30 through 19:46 at http://n1vg.net/profile.gif.

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Subject: Virginia Balloon NOW!
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:00:45 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 30

Virginina HAMS look at your APRS screens!

The balloon looks like it is headed across Charlottsville and then
RIchmond and on towards Tidewater.  If it lasts beyond that, its a gonner
out to sea.

I wonder if it is waterproof?

Builder could comment on its expected battery life too...?

de WB4APR@amsat.org, Bob

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Subject: Re: Balloon over WV heading East!
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@home.miller.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 18:11:59 -0700
X-Message-Number: 31

It's coming down at about 500 fpm - has it popped?

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Subject: Balloon over WV heading East
From: vic <ke4lkq@shentel.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:26:33 -0400
X-Message-Number: 32

12 miles northeast of Gassaway, WV. dropping fast at about 45 to 64 mph

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Subject: Re: Balloon over WV heading East!
From: "Douglas Quagliana" <dquagliana@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 01:29:45 +0000
X-Message-Number: 33

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 17:55:00 -0700 Scott Miller wrote:

>Just for the heck of it I plotted the altitude and airspeed of the balloon
>over the period of 06:30 through 19:46 at http://n1vg.net/profile.gif.

Here's the weather overlay from Roanoke, VA (Blacksburg)

http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/breadcrumb.cgi?call=kc8uch-11&geo=rad_fcx.geo

Douglas D. Quagliana KA2UPW

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Subject: Re: Balloon over WV heading East!
From: "Rochte, Robert" <rrochte@gpacademy.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:28:31 -0400
X-Message-Number: 34

Nope, no pop....  It is a *solar* balloon -- no helium, no lifting gas other
than hot air (and that provided by the sun).  It is an open-bottomed design,
just like a conventional hot air balloon.

Here are some initial pictures of the tetroon:

http://mail.gpacademy.org/~rochter/tetroon1.jpg
http://mail.gpacademy.org/~rochter/tetroon2.jpg
http://mail.gpacademy.org/~rochter/tetroon3.jpg
http://mail.gpacademy.org/~rochter/tetroon4.jpg (taken as it passed over our
school at 24,000 feet this morning!)

More later.  And yes, I am very interested in any offers of assistance in
recovering it.  We do offer a reward (albeit a small one - $50) but any help
will be included in the sure-to-be-famous :-) write-ups!

-R

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Subject: Re: Virginia Balloon NOW!
From: Robert Kirk <isobar@cablespeed.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 21:40:28 -0400
X-Message-Number: 35

If it doesn't pop, the upper air winds will probably turn it north soon, to 
go over, say, Glen Burnie, MD.

Bob Kirk
N3OZB

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