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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Thursday, July 10, 2003.
1. Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
2. Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
3. Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
4. Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
5. Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
6. Full Serve Satellite Data APRSd Server Back Online
7. Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
8. Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
9. ADMIN: Re: Don't know how many people noticed this
10. Re: Don't know how many people noticed this
11. what causes this?
12. Re: what causes this?
13. Re: what causes this?
14. Re: what causes this?
15. Re: what causes this?
16. Re: what causes this?
17. Re: what causes this?
18. Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
19. Re: Don't know how many people noticed this
20. today's test results
21. Weather software
22. RE: Weather software
23. Re: today's test results
24. Thoughts? on hidden transmitter
25. Re: today's test results
26. Re: Thoughts? on hidden transmitter
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Subject: Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
From: "Roger S" <n5eea@insightbb.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:41:45 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1
Assuming you like to buy toys....
You need to get an expansion pack for your Pocket PC.
I haven't tried APRSce yet, but since I'm getting back into APRS I hope
shortly, I can offer this suggestion.
Pocket PC's pose the same problem as a laptop does. Not enough serial
ports. Pocket PC's will recognize and configure a serial port however if
you use a pcmcia serial card in the Expansion Pack.
I have been able to connect a GPS with my expansion pack and a wireless
802.11b network card to .... To.... Ahem.... Capture GPS data into my
Pocket Streets maps. The GPS provided excelent data via com4 serial
port. The mapping software was able to use the GPS data and gave me a
nice moving map display.
I have one, but have yet to try my dual serial port pcmcia card.
I would recommend the expansion pack, a 1 or 2 port pcmcia serial card,
and a mini hard drive. I use a 5 GB Toshiba drive in mine.
If a dual serial port will work, your in like Flint. Otherwise, you
might try one of these little PIC PC Board Thingies (sorry just saw one
tonight, don't remember what it's called) to combine TNC on the same
serial port as the GPS.
I'll provide feed back as I try APRSce.
Roger Sellers
N5EEA
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Subject: Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
From: "Mark Fellhauer" <sparkfel@qwest.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 00:37:15 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2
At 11:41 PM 7/9/2003, Roger S wrote:
>Assuming you like to buy toys....
>You need to get an expansion pack for your Pocket PC.
Depends on the Pocket PC. My Casio E-200 has a CF slot built-in, and
there are plenty of CF GPS solutions. I do have the PCMCIA sled for it as
well and the RS-232/USB Host expansion pack. Odd, though, because the
sled and the expansion pack don't work together, even though there's a
pass-through...
The THD7 solution given by Stephen Smith, WA8LMF is a good one though.
>I haven't tried APRSce yet, but since I'm getting back into APRS I hope
>shortly, I can offer this suggestion.
I have, and it works great. Maps are a little skimpy, though.
>Pocket PC's pose the same problem as a laptop does. Not enough serial
>ports. Pocket PC's will recognize and configure a serial port however if
>you use a pcmcia serial card in the Expansion Pack.
Some Pocket PC's support USB host mode. If someone would just write some
WinCE drivers for USB to Serial converters...
Mark
KC7BXS
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Subject: Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:44:54 EDT
X-Message-Number: 3
In a message dated 7/9/2003 9:47:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
n5eea@insightbb.com writes:
>I would recommend the expansion pack, a 1 or 2 port pcmcia serial card,
>and a mini hard drive. I use a 5 GB Toshiba drive in mine.
>
>If a dual serial port will work, your in like Flint. Otherwise, you
>might try one of these little PIC PC Board Thingies (sorry just saw one
>tonight, don't remember what it's called) to combine TNC on the same
>serial port as the GPS.
By the time you load up a Pocket PC with it's tiny battery with all this
stuff, you might as well go with a small laptop and avoid this horrible
cludge. You get a full keyboard to boot.
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Subject: Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
From: "Dakota Summerhawk" <dakotas@dotorg.org>
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:50:57 -0600
X-Message-Number: 4
The county level maps from:
http://www.cnunix.com/ftp/hamradio/rutgers.mirror/maps/maps1/
Work just great for the APRS CE, we use them for the SAR team and they are
really good. Might try that for a start as far as maps goes. Rob has done a
great job with the CE program.
Dakota Summerhawk
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Subject: Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
From: "Dakota Summerhawk" <dakotas@dotorg.org>
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 23:57:36 -0600
X-Message-Number: 5
The Jornada 680, 690, 720 already has a keyboard built in and they are on
ebay for a reasonable price. I use a 720, a pico packet and a Pharos GPS
card tied into a TK-240D from Kenwood for my setup all powered by a power
port pack that is 12VDC 7AH battery. Fits right into my tac vest and easy to
deploy for operations either in the car or outside in short order.
Just a thought over the whole keyboard thing.
Dakota
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Subject: Full Serve Satellite Data APRSd Server Back Online
From: "Mike Wolthuis" <wolthui3@msu.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 1:11:31
X-Message-Number: 6
After a few months downtime due to changes in connection policies the full
data serve of satellite data capture is back online for connections.
igate.miaprs.net
port 10251 = full filtered satellite feed (AFilter is used to filter
national feed then igate.miaprs.net is connected to AFilter to
give 24/7 satellite data)
port 14679 = PCSAT data from Grand Rapids, Michigan
port 14601 = status
Note the change in ports to allow for a standard 144.390 igate as well.
This is a low traffic satellite only server. It allows bi-directional data
meaning if you want to hookup with your APRS client and only see what
SatGates are reporting and send all data you receive to the Tier I servers
it will work properly.
I hope this is of interest to some people, if you have questions feel free
to email! I think this is a really cool way to see just satellite data and
I connect my Xastir system to it at all times to see satellite data from
all over the world.
Mike Wolthuis
kb8zgl
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Subject: Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
From: "Mark Fellhauer" <sparkfel@qwest.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 01:38:38 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7
At 12:44 AM 7/10/2003, WA8LMF2@aol.com wrote:
>By the time you load up a Pocket PC with it's tiny battery with all this
>stuff, you might as well go with a small laptop and avoid this horrible
>cludge.
>You get a full keyboard to boot.
It's not a cludge - provided you buy the proper Pocket PC for the job. I
like the fact that PPC's have a transflective display that you can actually
see in sunlight. A laptop with a daylight visible screen costs more than a
fairly decent car - even on the used market.
As was pointed out there are a number of small subnotebook type WinCE
computers that fit the bill nicely.
Mark
KC7BXS
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Subject: Re: APRS on PocketPC users?
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:17:13 -0400
X-Message-Number: 8
I haven't kept up with the Poquet PC for a while, but I do NOT believe
there are any OS setups for the thing that would virtualize the com ports.
That means that ANY implementation of serial ports on a PCMCIA card would
not be standard for more than one port.
The issue is that PCMCIA only has 1 interrupt line from the card to the
host. You can put as many serial ports on a card as you want, or can fit,
but you would still only have that single interrupt line.
So, unless your software knows how to handle a shared interrupt, you'd be
out of luck.
Mike
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Subject: ADMIN: Re: Don't know how many people noticed this
From: "stanzepa@earthlink.net" <stanzepa@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:40:45 -0400
X-Message-Number: 9
This subject is off-topic. Please take this discussion off the APRSSIG.
Thank you for your cooperation,
Stan, WA1LOU, APRSSIG afministrator
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Subject: Re: Don't know how many people noticed this
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:48:23 -0400
X-Message-Number: 10
Mark Fellhauer wrote:
>I would really like to play with HF APRS and PSK31 on HF, but
>really have no desire to jump through someone else's arcane hoops just to
>do so.
I would never let someone else stand in the way to have fun. If you want
something, then just go for it and don't let the requirements bother you
too much. It really is hardly even worth talking about it. I never
thought of the tests as something I had to do for someone else. I did it
for me.
Last night I wrote 45 QSL cards. All of them represent a fun contact I
had with someone. Over half of them were digital (PSK31, PSK63, MFSK16),
the rest voice. My APRS station sits a bit lonely in the corner of the
shack these days. Often I don't even bother turning on the screen
because I know what it looks like and I'm having way too much fun below
30 MHz.
Don't let the idea of the "arcane hoops" withold you from having fun,
Mark.
73,
--Alex KR1ST
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