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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Monday, June 23, 2003.

1. Can't connect to hub servers.
2. Re: Can't connect to hub servers.
3. Another aprs2.net server online
4. Re: Can't connect to hub servers.
5. APRS Symbols for IRLP, I-Gate and Voice Repeater
6. APRSD
7. Re: Voice Repeaters - Travelers
8. ADMIN:RE: Clueless radio marketeers.
9. ADMIN: RE: Clueless radio marketeers.
10. Re: APRSD
11. Re: APRS Symbols for IRLP, I-Gate and Voice Repeater
12. Re: APRSD
13. Re: APRSD
14. Attaack of the Undead mouse driver
15. RE: APRSD
16. Re: Voice Repeaters - Travelers
17. Interesting development
18. Re: Voice Repeaters - Travelers
19. FS:  APRS Related Items
20. FS:  APRS Related Items
21. Re: Voice Repeaters - Travelers
22. Cell phones, APRS transmitters, and gas stations
23. Re: Voice Repeaters - Travelers
24. Re: Voice Repeaters - Travelers
25. Re: Cell phones, APRS transmitters, and gas stations
26. Re: APRS Symbols for IRLP, I-Gate and Voice Repeater
27. Traveller to Houston JJ1LYU-7

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Subject: Can't connect to hub servers.
From: Neil Johnson <njohnsn@njohnsn.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:54:47 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

Any help would be appreciated.

I'm trying to set up an igate using aprsd. I have put the following in my 
aprsd.conf file.

Server second.aprs.net 23 hub-sr
Server first.aprs.net 23 hub-sr
Server third.aprs.net 10152 hub-sr

However it doesn't seem to be connecting. If I try to manually connect I get 
the following:

[njohnson@njohnsn njohnson]$ telnet first.aprs.net 23
Trying 128.143.202.191...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[njohnson@njohnsn njohnson]$

[njohnson@njohnsn njohnson]$ telnet second.aprs.net 23
Trying 134.173.254.38...
Connected to SoCal.APRS.Net (134.173.254.38).
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
[njohnson@njohnsn njohnson]$

[njohnson@njohnsn njohnson]$ telnet third.aprs.net 10152
Trying 216.130.1.198...
Connected to snoopy.net (216.130.1.198).
Escape character is '^]'.
# javAPRSSrvr 1.7b06
Connection closed by foreign host.

 I'm running aprsd 2.2.5-13 

Thanks.

-- 
Neil Johnson
http://www.njohnsn.com
PGP key available on request.

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Subject: Re: Can't connect to hub servers.
From: KC7ZRU - Tate <kc7zru@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:05:50 -0600
X-Message-Number: 2

Firewall someplace?

TCP wrappers?

Just a couple 'gotchyas' that've bitten me in the past. That error 
message implies the program is sending out the packets, but for some 
reason, they're not even gettting to the target servers.

73

-- 
         "The Dungeon" online at http://go.to/kc7zru
               Casper, WY    |    CARC Repeater
                 DN62tt      |      146.940-
                  http://www.trib.com/~carc

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Subject: Another aprs2.net server online
From: "Phil Pacier, AD6NH" <ad6nh@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 23:35:13
X-Message-Number: 3

Greetings again.  The APRS2 Tier 2 network continues to grow, with 4 
servers now online, coordinated, and standardized.  We welcome Andrew 
Stubbs M0AQM/MB7UST to our network.  He runs the uk.aprs-uk.net server and 
has agreed to coordinate to the Tier 2 standardization.  Users may now add 
uk.aprs2.net to their connection lists.

The purpose of the Tier 2 network is to have a standardize group of servers 
to which clients can connect without worrying about many port differences.  
All four servers offer limited full feed connections on port 10152 and the 
user-defined filter port on 14580.  It is suggested that users of UI-View, 
APRS+, Xastir, and other client programs that offer automatic filter 
messaging place all of these servers in their list to ensure near non-stop 
connectivity.  For more specific port information, check the status pages 
of each of the Tier 2 servers.

http://arizona.aprs2.net:14501
http://socal.aprs2.net:14501
http://knoxville.aprs2.net:14501
http://uk.aprs2.net:14501

If you have any more questions, or would like to have your server join the 
Tier 2 network, please email me off the sig.  Enjoy! -73

Phillip Pacier - AD6NH
socal.aprs2.net
http://www.aprsca.net
http://www.aprs2.net

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Subject: Re: Can't connect to hub servers.
From: "Sean \\The RIMBoy\\" <sean@rimboy.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:41:19 -0500 (CDT)
X-Message-Number: 4

I'm guessing (and guessing) that first is down since our tier 2 rolled 
over to second and the fact that I cannot get a status page pulled up on 
first.

I'm assuming that the connection limits for second and third have also
been met and thus the reason why you're getting the connection refused
message.  They've already appear to have filled up their max connects.  I
was able to connect to third but saw no data coming back (on port 23 and
10152 was connect refused).  Fourth seems to work just fine (only 63 of
a possible 200 connections being used).  I'd add fourth to you list and 
let it roll over accordingly.

Sean...

--
Believing I had supernatural powers, I slammed into a brick wall.
	--Paul Simon
_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_
KG4NRC  http://www.rimboy.com  Your source for the crap you know you need.

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Subject: APRS Symbols for IRLP, I-Gate and Voice Repeater
From: Adi Linden <adil@adis.on.ca>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 01:00:40 -0500 (CDT)
X-Message-Number: 5

Ok, I found more discrepancies between documentations, default configs, 
and the APRS Protocol Document. What are the accepted proper icons for 
these objects:

    IRLP node
    I-Gate
    Voice Repeater

I have them all in on spot. Is there a nice way to have one packet convey 
all the relevant information? From the information I have accumulated so 
far I should be producing 3 different APRS messages, a beacon for the 
i-gate, a message with the IRLP node status and a message with 
voice repeater information... 

Thanks,
Adi
-- 
   Adi Linden  |  va3adi  |  va3adi@adis.ca  |  http://adis.ca
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
            IRLP Node 2590 in Sioux Lookout, Ontario

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Subject: APRSD
From: "Julian \(OH8GEJ\)" <julian@privateasylum.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 10:36:12 +0300
X-Message-Number: 6

Hello everyone.
I would like to setup a Digi/Igate for my local area and was thinking of
using Debian Linux running aprsd with ft-23r and baypac BP-2M.
My problem is documentation for aprsd is poor in Debian.

So I am hoping that someone in the list could help me by sending me the
configuration files from their own aprsd installation so that I may compare
it to my own.
Also any configuration documentation on running the BP-2M would be very much
apprecaited.

I think it is safe to say Debian is the worse release of linux out today.
For that reason any suggestions or ideas about which OS to use are highly
welcome.

Best regards
Julian

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Subject: Re: Voice Repeaters - Travelers
From: Henk de Groot <henk.de.groot@hetnet.nl>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 12:29:43 +0200
X-Message-Number: 7

Just an addition aid the traveling APRS user.

At 15:17 22-6-03 -0400, Bob Bruninga wrote:
>Travelers Voice Repeaters:
>
>To help APRS travelers this summer, digipeaters in the boonies should
>recommend the nearest WIDE-AREA VOICE repeater for thru-travelers.  These
>recommendations should show up on the Kenwood something like this:

As traveler with APRS also review your station list if there is any near 
digi with a "D" overlay. If there is, you can ask this digi for more local 
information by sending messages to it. Here is in short how it works:

You should be able to use the digi without any prior knowledge (except 
mayby that you can send messages to a digi with a "D" overlay). A good 
start is to send "?help" to the digi to interrogate what is has to offer to 
the traveling user. In fact you could send any random message like 
"whattheheckisthis" and it will reply with the suggestion to use "?help" 
instead. To cope with the small display, "?help" may be broken down in 
chapters "?h1", "?h2" etc. Some offer a complete list of commands directly 
by using the "?list" command.

The default setup has responses for "?voice" to reply with the voice 
repeaters in the area, which basically gives the same information as Bob's 
broadcast message. But there is more information for the traveler, like 
"?local" for frequently used local QSO frequencies and "?net" for regulary 
scheduleled nets.

Besides this there can be information about local hotels and restaurants, 
fastfood stores and, maybe also important, Electronics and HAM stores. Also 
police stations and hostpital locations are frequently present.

The retrieved information is not only presented as reply text, but also as 
objects if applicable so you know distance and direction to a specific 
location.

With just a few commands you will be up to date with all interesting 
information applicable for the visitied area. What is available on a 
specific installation should be guided by "?help" and may vary from station 
to station, depending how much effort the operator spend to put this 
information in his digi.

The nice thing about this solution is that information is provided on a 
"need to know" basis and not broadcasted day an night taking up air-time. 
This makes it possible to provide much more valuable and rich information 
content than just information about the local voice repeater. Note that 
queries and responses are only served with a restricted path (max 1 or 2 
hops), so just use the nearest digi with D overlay for this, which in turn 
will give you the information relevant to your area!

This works for any APRS client, including, but not restricted to, the 
Kenwood devices.

Happy traveling! Kind regards,

Henk.

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