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Subject: Re: Tracking other packets - finding the balloon
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 17:59:01 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 21

On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Rochte, Robert wrote:

>One suspicion that I have about my missing balloon is that the GPS flaked
>out...
>
>If this *is* what happened, then I would *not* see any updates on Findu,
>would I?  I'm assuming that they would stop right when the GPS died.  Is
>there a way to query all of the APRS packets that have been relayed through
>the balloon and thus possibly get an idea of where it is at, even though it
>is not transmitting position data?

If your beacon text begins with the ">" character, that makes it an APRS
status packet and it should be captured.  If it is any other BEACON text
then it wont be captured unless it is one of the other APRS formats...

Bob

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Subject: Re: Voice Repeaters - Travelers
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 18:02:18 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 22

On Sun, 22 Jun 2003, Dick Stanich wrote:

>LT 3 )146-880 !3303.28N/11449.66W$PL-162.2 Black MTN KB7ZVA
>LTP 3 APRS
>
>I covered legal issues by adding my callsign. If you jump on the aprs-is

Not actually needed, because the LText above is send with the callsign of
the sending TNC included.  All APRS client software is supposed to capture
this as well...

But THANKS for getting this ball rolling!

If you go to more than direct, reduce the periodicity by the same factor.
One wide make it 20 mins.
2 wides make it 30 mins...

jut my thinking...

bob

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Subject: Re: Voice Repeaters - Travelers
From: "Dakota Summerhawk" <dakotas@dotorg.org>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 16:15:48 -0600
X-Message-Number: 23

We have had better luck in getting the voice alert set up in the Cheyenne
area after a post to the local club list on your topic and to not run the
tone unless your looking for a conversation. Look for me when I am at work
and the message for VA on 100.0 PL
Thanks
Dakota-N0WRE

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Subject: Re: APRS and IRLP
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 18:29:49 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 24

IRLP and ECHOlink objects on LOCAL 144.39 RF:

>>Then there is the message format described at
>>http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/avrs.html:

Hummh... My AVRS web page is not up to date.  I was sure I had posted
these ideas before, but cannot find them, so here goes...

  ;IRLP-####*DDHHMMzDDMM.hhN/DDDMM.hhWLPHGphcdFFFFFF/PPP SSSSSSSSS OOOOOOO

  Where: IRLP##### or ECHO##### are the Node address (9 bytes always)
         DDHHMM is the zulu time of the transmission
         DDMM.hhN is the latitude
         DDDMM.hhW is the longitude
         L is a LINK ICON (it may show up as a lighthouse on some APRS)
         PHGphcd   is the antenna power, height, gain and directivity
         FFFFFF is exactly 6 digits of frquency (ie 146940 or 443.250)
         PPP is the PL (ignore the tenths of a HZ)
         SSSSSSSSS is a 9 character free field for STATUS
         OOOOOOO   is a 7 character optional continuation of status

Note, the 9 character status and 7 character optional bytes can be
extended to 10 and 8 respectively if the leading SPACE is replaced.
Those just mark the "line" boundaries on the Kenwood Front Panel displays
whre things are displayed in three lines of 10 characters each.  The
OPTIONAL field will not show up on the two line D7's display, but will be
seen on the D700 mobile front panel.

For PHGphcd see the digis.txt file (search Google for it)

In the status field you can put things like:
  Available  =  Its on line or just went to idle
  <=>123456  =  Its connected to node 123456
  Off-line   =  (whatever that means)
  etc

NOTES:

1) If this APRS packet is not automated, then put 111111z for the DDHHMMz
date time field since it is not displayed on the mobiles anyway.

2) For PHG, remember it is HAAT not height above sealevel or any other
height.  And thi equation is not perfect.  So observe the coverage circle
as plotted on an APRS map and see if you need to increase it or decrease
it.  Remember, the "d" value can offset the circle in the 8 cardinal
directiosn if you have a lopsided coverage.

If this conflicts from my other recent postings, can someone send me a
copy of it.  I have been kibitzing so much recently I can't keep track of
what ALL I have said.  At least I cant find it now...

de WB4APR

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Subject: RE: Clueless radio marketeers.
From: "Earl S. Garber" <n3eg@teleport.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 19:38:20
X-Message-Number: 25

On 06/21/03, "Rich Garcia <k4gps@bellsouth.net>" wrote:
>Next they will set their sights on Walkie Talkie...

Well, Handie-Talkie belongs to Motorola, along with PL.  FRS radios are 
commonly referred to in some places as "Talkabouts" - another Motorola 
trademark.  Let's hope Rino GPSs don't wind up being referred to as APRS 
radios, or all trackers referred to as RINOs...

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Subject: Which server to connect i-gate to?
From: Adi Linden <adil@adis.on.ca>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 21:15:18 -0500 (CDT)
X-Message-Number: 26

Hi,

I am going through my aprsd configuration. Almost ready to turn the i-gate 
back on. I noticed that aprsd defaults to the following servers:

Server second.aprs.net 23 hub-sr
Server first.aprs.net 23 hub-sr
Server third.aprs.net 23 hub-sr

Is leaving it like this an appropriate thing to do?

Adi
-- 
   Adi Linden  |  va3adi  |  va3adi@adis.ca  |  http://adis.ca
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
            IRLP Node 2590 in Sioux Lookout, Ontario

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Subject: Re: APRS and IRLP
From: Dennis Hudson <n2lbt@n2lbt.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:27:09 -0400
X-Message-Number: 27

I would have to agree with you about just sending udp packets to the 
APRS-IS. I don't think there is anyone doing just APRS-IS. The IS is 
only the transport between the IRLP box back to the igate (usually the 
same box). As I've said before, if the internet connection breaks and 
you loose connection to the IS, so does the IRLP node anyway.

Dennis, N2LBT

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Subject: Re: Which server to connect i-gate to?
From: Dennis Hudson <n2lbt@n2lbt.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 23:40:45 -0400
X-Message-Number: 28

That's what I'm using with just one more added

Server fourth.aprs.net 23 hub-sr

There is still all kinds of crazy cross connecting going on with old 
versions of aprsd and I really don't know why. No one I've asked why they
need to use verified cross connects has ever answered me. Yeah you might
miss a packet or 2 a day, so what? It's better than taxing your box down
with a bunch of dupes, and possibly bringing down the box or worse.

Dennis, N2LBT

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Subject: Re: Which server to connect i-gate to?
From: "Dick Stanich" <dick@kb7zva.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:54:17
X-Message-Number: 29

>There is still all kinds of crazy cross connecting going on with old
>versions of aprsd and I really don't know why.

I don't know why either. When I saw the cause of looping packets a few 
months ago, I asked the same question. Example:

http://142.137.27.177:14501/

Dick, KB7ZVA
Arizona.aprs2.net
Aprswest.net
http://kb7zva.com

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Subject: Can't connect to hub servers.
From: Neil Johnson <njohnsn@njohnsn.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 16:54:47 -0500
X-Message-Number: 30

Any help would be appreciated.

I'm trying to set up an igate using aprsd. I have put the following in my 
aprsd.conf file.

Server second.aprs.net 23 hub-sr
Server first.aprs.net 23 hub-sr
Server third.aprs.net 10152 hub-sr

However it doesn't seem to be connecting. If I try to manually connect I get 
the following:

[njohnson@njohnsn njohnson]$ telnet first.aprs.net 23
Trying 128.143.202.191...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[njohnson@njohnsn njohnson]$

[njohnson@njohnsn njohnson]$ telnet second.aprs.net 23
Trying 134.173.254.38...
Connected to SoCal.APRS.Net (134.173.254.38).
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.
[njohnson@njohnsn njohnson]$

[njohnson@njohnsn njohnson]$ telnet third.aprs.net 10152
Trying 216.130.1.198...
Connected to snoopy.net (216.130.1.198).
Escape character is '^]'.
# javAPRSSrvr 1.7b06
Connection closed by foreign host.

 I'm running aprsd 2.2.5-13 

Thanks.

-- 
Neil Johnson
http://www.njohnsn.com
PGP key available on request.

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