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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Thursday, June 12, 2003.
1. REF: NOT "Off Topic "
2. Re: Old computers is not off topic
3. REF: NOT "Off Topic " LAPTOP SUGGESTION
<LYR28867-136481-2003.06.11-23.52.49--ka8spw#comcast.net@lists.tapr.org>
4. Another Question...
5. Re: Another Question...
6. Re: WaypointXL
7. Re: WaypointXL
8. Re: Another Question...
9. APRS Client Capability Chart
10. Re: VOICE ALERT for Europe
11. Re: VOICE ALERT for Europe
12. Re: Help with geo file for radar
13. Re: VOICE ALERT for Europe
14. Re: Help with geo file for radar
15. Re: VOICE ALERT for Europe
16. Balloon flights this Saturday
17. Re: VOICE ALERT for Europe
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Subject: REF: NOT "Off Topic "
From: "Matthew Stennett" <wa4tkg@iwon.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 23:58:25 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 1
Nice Reply:
I think the trouble makers should be given a good "SMAK"& if THAT doesn't
work, kick 'em off the SIG.
I've been on the look out for SOME (ANY) old lap top (preferably one that
is being trashed) to operate APRS off of.. I have seen old "Boat Anchors"
of desk tops thrown away in the dumpster here (live in an apartment) but I
have no need for another LARGE computer (or ROOM for it). I run an iMAC;
DV; OS9, and it is MORE then enough for what I need it for (Veggie Netting,
Word Processing, FAXing resume' looking for REAL job), so I figure I'd
leave the boat anchors out there for someone who can't afford a computer,
and let THEM lug it into the house....I need to find an old laptop to
operate portable, in case of emergency: APRS, SEDAN, etc.
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Subject: Re: Old computers is not off topic
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:54:49 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2
John Kraus wrote:
>Are "Old Computers" off topic. I think not. What is off topic is the
>oneupsmanship of the flame bait.
I think Stan meant the discussion on hamradio, not on old computers.
Hamradio is off topic, in particular, expressing a view on hamradio,
especially the ARRL, is off topic.
73,
--Alex KR1ST (not wearing two hats)
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Subject: Another Question...
From: T C <boytroy54@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:26:13 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 4
To the List,
I have a D700 and a Garmin GPS 12. The radio and the GPS function fine. I
want to now add my laptop into the truck. What do I have to do to connect
the laptop into the gps and radio so I can see where I am in APRS+SA.
I am running SA 7.0. And a register copy of APRS+SA. The laptop is a
Gateway with CD-Rom and floppy, one com port and a USB port that I have a
USB to comport adapter for and configured. The USB to com port has
operated the D7a handheld.
I am looking for a clean easy to do cable, that i don't have to cut into
the cables that are already functioning... I sweated out a quart of blood
making them work.
Thanks everyone...
73 de w8tcc, troy
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Subject: Re: Another Question...
From: Randy Allen - KA0AZS <ka0azs@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:51:40 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 5
1. Get a straight through serial cable (NOT a null modem)
2. Hook your laptop serial port to the port on the front of the radio.
3. Set the D700 to TNC PKT. This disables the internal APRS firmware and
turns control over to the client software on the laptop.
4. Set the +SA software to use the D700 (can't remember the exact title in
+SA) TNC intialization file
5. Make sure you have "Track Me" checked on the setup screen.
I've been running my D700/+SA set up for public service events etc. like
this for a couple of years now and works fine for me.
73
Randy Allen, KA0AZS
EC, Montgomery County OH
www.qsl.net/ohd3ares
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Subject: Re: WaypointXL
From: "Coe" <k4coe@arrl.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:4:21
X-Message-Number: 6
Brent:
I was using Waypoint Way-before I got my ticket with my 45 and III+ and
SA4. Waypoint is my #1 rated Outstanding program (as I told Steve D. of
findU).
Will WaypointXL work with SA4 on W98 & W98se.
Glad to see that your original declaration of non-support (was that three
--- no 5 or 6 years ago) has again 'softened'! Thanks!!!
de k4coe
Coe
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Subject: Re: WaypointXL
From: "Coe" <k4coe@arrl.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:11:53
X-Message-Number: 7
Oh yeah,
Office 97?
de k4coe
Coe
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Subject: Re: Another Question...
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:25:49 EDT
X-Message-Number: 8
In a message dated 6/12/2003 8:54:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
ka0azs@earthlink.net writes:
>1. Get a straight through serial cable (NOT a null modem)
>
>2. Hook your laptop serial port to the port on the front of the radio.
>
>3. Set the D700 to TNC PKT. This disables the internal APRS firmware and
>turns control over to the client software on the laptop.
>
>4. Set the +SA software to use the D700 (can't remember the exact title in +
>SA) TNC intialization file
>
> 5. Make sure you have "Track Me" checked on the setup screen.
And perhaps the most important and least obvious setting:
On the SETUP. MAIN screen, locate the "Port 1 TNC" box, pull down the MODE
list and select "MODE7". This is a the special mode for the D700/THD7 that
expects GPS and TNC data to be coming in on the same serial port. [ The
Kenwood "7"s echo GPS data entering the dedicated GPS port out the main
serial port along with received TNC data when they are in the "PACKET"
mode. ]
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf @ aol.com
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com
Ham Radio/Mobile SSTV page: http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/ham
APRS Stuff
http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs
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Subject: APRS Client Capability Chart
From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" <hacker@tc.fluke.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:14:02 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 9
APRS Client Capabilities Chart:
http://www.eskimo.com/~archer/aprs_capabilities.html
Users/developers are invited to send updates to the "archer@eskimo.com"
address. In particular, the Alinco and Kenwood radio columns are lacking
info, but nearly all of the columns could use an update or three.
If you have expert knowledge of any of these or are a developer of one of
these packages, please send updates. I'll get them in quickly.
--
Curt Mills, WE7U hacker_NO_SPAM_@tc.fluke.com
Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math!"
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates!" -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Subject: Re: VOICE ALERT for Europe
From: "Demetre Valaris" <sv1uy@sv1uy.ampr.org>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 21:09:13 +0300
X-Message-Number: 10
On 12 Jun 2003 at 10:30, Bob Bruninga wrote:
>I think you are saying that 136.5 works BETTER than 100 in Europe?
>You didnt really make that conclusion exactly...
>
>Bob
Hi Bob,
Hmm although I said that it is not multiple of our 50HZ perhaps I took it
for granted that interested people would have read our previous discussion
and maybe this is a mix up to those who read this discussion about VOICE
ALERT for the first time.
Yes I am saying that for VOICE ALERT in Europe 136.5 HZ subtone or any
other frequency which is not a multiple of 50HZ (the frequency of our AC
Power distribution circuit in Europe) is probably much better than the
100HZ you use in USA.
In August I am going to visit the UK for 2 weeks so I am going to test it
there too, although I do not expect any different behaviour in this since
all Europe uses 50 HZ. I will let the group know anyway!!!
73 and keep up the good work.
===
73 de Demetre SV1UY
e-mail: sv1uy at sv1uy.ampr.org
PACKET MAIL: SV1UY@SV1UY.ATH.GRC.EURO
http://www.athnet.ampr.org/~sv1uy
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Subject: Re: VOICE ALERT for Europe
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:20:02 -0400
X-Message-Number: 11
Perhaps folks are chasing a ghost? Is using a 100Hz tone for CTCSS in
Europe a real problem?
As far as I know, Bob has only advocated the use of VA for mobile
stations. At some point he even expressed that he hoped that no home
station would run a PL on APRS.
Unless someone is running a mobile rig through an inverter and power
supply while mobile, I'm not sure where the 100Hz, a harmonic(!) of
50Hz, is coming from on your TX signal.
On the RX side, if you would receive a 100Hz tone on a mobile rig
superimposed on the received signal but not generated by the
transmitter, it seems to me that you have bigger problems than a non
tone carrying packet sneaking through to your ears.
I'm not an RF engineer, but if you (anyone) are, then please be so kind
to explain to me how a harmonic of 50 Hz generated outside the RX and TX
equipment gets superimposed on an FM carrier or can get induced
somewhere else down the RF, IF or AF train of a mobile FM transceiver.
I'm not saying that preventing problems is not a good idea, I'm just
trying to understand the problem.
73,
--Alex KR1ST (ghost buster)
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