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Subject: Re: Freedom Corps
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:02:07 -0700
X-Message-Number: 22

Troy,

FireNet is part of the USA Freedom Corps!

www.dwrracesupport.com/fire

Jim, WA6OFT

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Subject: RE: Garmin Rhino?
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 15:01:13 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 23

I finally got my two RINO 110's.  It sounds to me like a 2400 baud data
burst.  To hear it, click on: http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/rino1.wav

The first burst is a PTT Kerchunk to get it to transmit a posit...

The second is the data burst.  Im leaving in 1 hour for a 9 day family
trip, so I cant play anymore.  Ill take the rinos with me, but wont be
able to do anything with them but let my kids play.  No tools at Grammmas.

But presumably the received posit shows up as a Waypoint in the RINO's
waypoint list.  But Brent Hilderbrand says it takes some time to download
waypoints at only 10 per second...  But if there are only 10 RINO's at an
event, and say 20 waypoints for the event, thats about 3 seconds of
download time every 30 seconds from the central RINO to the serial port
of the central APRS PC..  Easy to do..
(unless its not listening while its downloading).

Well, thats not a problem either.  Just do a 10 second download.  Wait 20
seconds and do a POLL of all units.  This will give the maximmum possible
update rate while also allowing for some new units to enter in...

Bob

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Subject: Win APRS Direct Station Only
From: "Dave Sloan" <desloan@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:03:40 -0600
X-Message-Number: 24

I was playing around with changing from all stations to direct stations to
see how well my station was working. I have several stations out at 500
miles when in direct station only! Of course when I go to all stations I see
a lot more to include mobiles out at the 500 mile range. Is it normal to see
stations this far out when in Direct Stations Only? I guess that this is NOT
an accurate way to determine how far your station can receive? What does
placing your APRS program into Direct Station Mode Only accomplish?

Tnx & 73,
Dave N0EOP

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Subject: Re: MacAPRS w/USB-Serial Adaptor
From: John W. (Bill) Hays <w0omv1@mchsi.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:10:20 -0500
X-Message-Number: 25

I too run iMac DV slot loading Mac into a USB to Serial port converter.
If I quit the MacAPRS application without first closing ALL ports I
then must go through the reboot routine etc.. However, if I pull down
to the VHF port and uncheck that to close the VHF port and then pull
down to the TCP ports and click on close all tcp/ip ports and THEN quit

I can restart MacAPRS without having to reboot or unplug and reinsert
anything.
I don't know why, but that's the way it works for me.

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Subject: Re: Freedom Corps
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 15:23:14 -0400
X-Message-Number: 26

T C wrote:

>Put Amateur Radio on the top of the Volunteer list.  Let
>them know we are here and doing things to help in homeland
>security...

They know:

http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2003/06/06/4/?nc=1

Soon all ARRL members will be asked to wear Citizens Corps uniforms.

73,
--Alex KR1ST

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Subject: Re: Win APRS Direct Station Only
From: Mark Sproul <msproul@jove.rutgers.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 15:24:41 -0400
X-Message-Number: 27

The original intent was back when we running RF only to show stations 
that we heard direct vs machines that were heard via Digis.  With the 
internet, this is not always obvious and the method for detecting 
DIRECT vs non-DIRECT never changed.

Mark

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Subject: Re: Radio question
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 15:33:06 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 28

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Dakota Summerhawk wrote:

>I saw the article that had a radio dropped into a PPC for being able to have
>one group talk to another, Is the technology there to be able to have the
>radio TX with APRS CE? It would be great to have the radio and the GPS built
>in to one unit that could sit on your arm or belt and have the capability to
>be able to APRS without all the equipment being split up.
>Any suggestions on technology on this line of thinking?

Thats what the RINO is.  That is why we are excited about integrating it
into APRS.  It only costs $xxx...

de WB4APR@amsat.org, Bob

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Subject: RE: Garmin Rhino?
From: "Dave Sloan" <desloan@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:05:22 -0600
X-Message-Number: 29

What about the Rino 120? It has 8 meg of memory and comes with a PC
interface cable.

73,
Dave N0EOP

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Subject: Client Personality Enhancement Suggestion [was: Win APRS Direct
Station  Only]
From: "Ev Tupis (W2EV)" <w2ev@arrl.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 20:41:42 -0400
X-Message-Number: 30

fwiw... two suggestions for the fathers of APRS to consider...

Client software should be able to easily visually segregate icons that are
RX'd via RF vs. those that are RX'd via the IStream.

  Use: I want to be hooked up to the IStream to send info, yet wish to view
       only what I see on RF.

APRS would be well served by having a "frequency of origination" variable
in /PGH and be able to use that information to filter what is displayed (by
band of origination).

  Use: a distress call is sent, SAR teams converge, no signal DF'd.  Why?
       It is on 30m, not 2m.

Just some Brain Sugar.

Ev, W2EV

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Subject: Re: Client Personality Enhancement Suggestion [was: Win APRS Direct
Station  Only]
From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" <hacker@tc.fluke.com>

Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 16:51:18 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 31

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Ev Tupis (W2EV) wrote:

>Client software should be able to easily visually segregate icons that are RX'd
>via RF vs. those that are RX'd via the IStream.
>
> Use: I want to be hooked up to the IStream to send info, yet wish to view
>    only what I see on RF.

You can do this with Xastir, at least with these two cases.


>APRS would be well served by having a "frequency of origination" variable in
>/PGH and be able to use that information to filter what is displayed (by band
of>origination).

Now that we can't do.

-- 
Curt Mills, WE7U                    hacker_NO_SPAM_@tc.fluke.com
Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin
"Lotto:    A tax on people who are bad at math!"
"Windows:  Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates!" -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me:  I picked the coordinate system!"

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Subject: Client Personality Chart [was: Client Personality Enhancement 
Suggestion]
From: "Ev Tupis (W2EV)" <w2ev@arrl.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 21:42:15 -0400
X-Message-Number: 32

"Curt Mills, WE7U" wrote:
>You can do this with Xastir, at least with these two cases.

About 10 years ago I thought it would be a nice idea to document the
various features that each author built-in to their systems and lay them
out on a chart to allow new APRSers the opportunity to make an informed
decision as to which client they would use.

Alas...time and twins got in the way. :)

Thanks, Curt.  The more I stick around, the more I understand just how
underpowered non-open and non-*nix systems really are. :)

Ev, W2EV

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