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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Sunday, June 01, 2003.
1. Re: findu.com & TinyTrak3
2. Re: findu.com & TinyTrak3
3. Re: Coverage Map
4. Re: & TinyTrak3
5. Re: D7 not capable of full Voice Alert?
6. Re: Coverage Map
7. PCSAT
8. APRSdos lives on my machine!
9. Re: APRSdos lives on my machine!
10. Re: APRSdos lives on my machine!
11. Re: APRSdos lives on my machine!
12. Re: Garmin RINO serial data (fwd)
13. IRLP on APRS!
14. Re: D7 not capable of full Voice Alert?
15. Re: APRSdos lives on my machine!
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Subject: Re: findu.com & TinyTrak3
From: "James Bell Jr. [K7FTP]" <k7ftp@commtechreview.net>
Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 23:11:14 -0600
X-Message-Number: 1
Here you go...
Recorded data...
K7FTP>CQ,WIDE2-1,qAR,KD7GIZ-10:>TinyTrak3 v1.00
This is the first packed sent on powerup from the TT3.
Here is the web page which recorded it...
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/raw.cgi?call=k7ftp&start=72&length 0&time=0
It's down near the bottom of the page.
Is that proof enough for you?
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Subject: Re: findu.com & TinyTrak3
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 06:04:44 EDT
X-Message-Number: 2
In a message dated 5/31/2003 10:14:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
k7ftp@commtechreview.net writes:
>>>>From what we can tell, when the TinyTrak is started, it sends a packet
>>with
>>>a CQ in it, and the TinyTrak3 v1.00 status text.
Byon has stated this as fact (and that it is unchangeable) on the TinyTrak
mailing list about two weeks ago.
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Subject: Re: Coverage Map
From: "hasan schiers" <schiers@netins.net>
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 06:39:35 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3
If you are looking at predicted coverage based on terrain and haat as well
as antennas, power etc., then Radio Mobile is your baby. Free, outstanding
program, not easy to learn...but exceptional.
Google search will get you there. It's by a VE station.
....hasan, N0AN
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Subject: Re: & TinyTrak3
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 09:30:23 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 4
Message capability is indicated by using the "@" and "=" APRS position
format identifiers or "!" or "/" for no message capability. All trackers
should use the ! or / format. All client software should display the two
types of ICONS differently so users can tell instantly if a station is
message capble or not (APRSdos uses WHITE for msg-capable, and gray for
non-msg-capable.)
>I think it was suggested a long while back that if we wanted
>to indicate a message capability, we could use the SSID and
>I do since then.. Kenwoods could use a -7 for a D7, a -1 for
>D700. For dumb trackers..
The convention (if any) for Kenwoods was to use the -7 for either the D7
or D700 if you only have one, or D8 for the D700 if you have both. But
this is not important for distinction of message capability.
The Mic-E format uses the first byte of the status field to indicate if it
its message capable or not. D7's use ">" as the start of the comment
field, and D700's use the "]".
These bytes are in there just for this purpose to show that they are
Kenwoods and are message capable. All other Mic-E devices are not message
capable and do not have that byte in them. APRSdos uses that byte (and
the other "msg" byte) to draw all messsage capable stations in bright
white and all non msg capable icons in gray.
Since all Icons have this attribute of msg/non-msg capable and make it
clear on the display (or should have) there should be no ambiguity.
Unfortunately, some client programs do not display all the various ICON
attributes on the display such as:
Message or non message capable
FIXED or moving
Station or Object or YOUR object
Special, Priority or Emergency (for Mic-E's)
Old posit, previous posit, or new posit
APRSdos uses color to convey these attributes to the user. Other clients
should do something similar. One way would be a color border around the
icon, or some "tick" marks or anything so that the user gets these
attributes clearly... I can't tell them how to do it, but it is part of
APRS and should be done somwhow on all APRS displays so that users of all
different clients "see the same information" when looking at an APRS map.
Bob
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Subject: Re: D7 not capable of full Voice Alert?
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 09:31:42 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 5
On Sat, 31 May 2003, Coe wrote:
>Try as I might I cannot get Tone and Tone Squelch (CTSS) to operate
>simultaneously. If you turn Tone one to transmit the 100 hz PL it turns
>CTSS off and vice versa. And by golly, 2 places in the manual state that
>they are mutually exclusive on the THD7A/G. So maybe it is only the D700
>that this works for?
We may have not said it clearly. Yes, you set CTCSS. This way you
transmit and receive PL 100 only for voice alert.
Bob
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Subject: Re: Coverage Map
From: James Smith <k9apr@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:58:50 -0500
X-Message-Number: 6
Thanks Hasan, and everyone else that responded to my query about
coverage map software. I have downloaded Radio Mobile which is a very
slick program, as was said the other day it has a APRS interface built
into it using AGWPE software.. I made my coverage map with easy of use..
Very nicely written, for those who might in the future need a program to
figure out propagation goto the link below. The program is developed by
VE2DBE..
http://www.cplus.org/rmw/english1.html
Again thanks.
--
73, James, K9APR Webmaster Webmaster
Chairman \ Coordinator Indiana Repeater Council Henry Co.
Amateur Radio Club
Tri-State APRS Working Group http://www.ircinc.org
http://www.qsl.net/hcara
http://www.tawg.org
mailto:k9apr@tawg.org
Run a APRS Website? Why not join the APRS Webring. http://www.tawg.org/join.htm
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Subject: PCSAT
From: Earl Needham <needhame@yucca.net>
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:15:18 -0600
X-Message-Number: 7
While catching up on my email, I saw Bob's post about the mission of PCSAT
being declared complete. I just want to say that it was an outstanding
job. Bob and the midshipmen that put it together (sorry, I don't have
their names here) "killed two birds with one stone" and the results were
just super.
7 3
Earl
P.S. I'm still looking forward to using PCSAT every once in a while when
the sun is just right...
Earl Needham, KD5XB, Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
KD5XB-2>APW251,PCSAT-1%:=3425.83N/10313.55W-PHG7150/WinAPRS 2.5.1
-EARL_CLOVIS -251-<630>
SETI@Home: 10661WU/6.94yrs!
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Subject: APRSdos lives on my machine!
From: Earl Needham <needhame@yucca.net>
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 09:17:26 -0600
X-Message-Number: 8
I haven't tried since upgrading to W95 'way back when, but yesterday I
brought up APRSdos 852 and it works on W2000! And it's fast as all get out
on this machine, too! <G>
7 3
Earl
Earl Needham, KD5XB, Clovis, New Mexico DM84jk
KD5XB-2>APW251,PCSAT-1%:=3425.83N/10313.55W-PHG7150/WinAPRS 2.5.1
-EARL_CLOVIS -251-<630>
SETI@Home: 10661WU/6.94yrs!
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Subject: Re: APRSdos lives on my machine!
From: James Smith <k9apr@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 10:42:58 -0500
X-Message-Number: 9
Just wish it worked on XP Pro, my machine doesn't like it.... Oh
well!!!! :-)
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Subject: Re: APRSdos lives on my machine!
From: "Cap Pennell" <cap@cruzio.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 10:35:41 -0700
X-Message-Number: 10
APRSdos works FB on Windows XP Pro here, FWIW.
I didn't even need to set XP's "compatibility mode" during install.
It helps to use the F10 DOZE mode during operation, when Alt-Tab
"multitasking" between APRSdos and other Windows applications. You may need
to consider the APRSdosMAX846 version which can display more stations if you
can't see all of your local stations on APRSdos852.
73, Cap KE6AFE
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Subject: Re: APRSdos lives on my machine!
From: James Smith <k9apr@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 13:24:30 -0500
X-Message-Number: 11
Well you must be lucky, cause mine isn't working. And when I mean
working it comes up and says something like XMS driver.. What the heck
that means. And then the screen shows ups and I can't read anything and
looks like I got the Japan version... Oh well I have other programs I
can run on APRS anyway.... I did set the XMS Driver to 16386 to see if
that would help no dice... I'm not worried about, it just won't work on
this machine..
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