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Subject: RE: Broadband on Power --City(not FCC) enforces radio law and busts
CBer
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 19:46:00 -0400
X-Message-Number: 13
>At 06:20 AM 5/23/2003 -0400, WA8LMF2@aol.com wrote:
>>According to the ordinance, the definition of CB radio "includes all private,
>>two-way, short-distance voice communications service for personal or business
>>activities of the general public."
>
> WOWSERS! Doesn't this paint us all with the same brush?
Remember, virtually all VHF licenses for business use are planned
geographically and as such considered a 'specific' or 'short' distance.
CB by it's rules is limited to 150miles.
Commercial HF stations and HAM radio stations have no 'distance'
limits at all in ANY regulations that I am aware of, and as such should
be exempt right there.
HAM radio is NOT for the general public either.
In fact, if someone knows of ANY regulation that specifies 'distance'
as a limiting factor with relation to ANY HAM radio activity, other
than for the 'bad' things, I would love to see it pointed out.
Mike
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Subject: RE: Broadband on Power --City(not FCC) enforces ra dio law and busts
CBer
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 00:40:51 -0000
X-Message-Number: 14
I think the use of EME ought to put any such questions to rest... that's
about 1/2 million miles round trip. I suppose that's the practical limit
for now, until someone puts ham gear on an interplanetary spacecraft. Or
until they let hams use the Arecibo planetary radar, but I think the EIRP of
20 terawatts is a bit outside what part 97 allows...
Scott
N1VG
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Subject: RE: Broadband on Power --City(not FCC) enforces radio law and busts
CBer
From: Earl Needham <needhame@yucca.net>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 20:00:46 -0600
X-Message-Number: 15
I guess I see all kinds of problems with this issue that others
don't see --
At 07:46 PM 5/29/2003 -0400, Mike Yetsko wrote:
><snip>
>Remember, virtually all VHF licenses for business use are planned
>geographically and as such considered a 'specific' or 'short' distance.
>CB by it's rules is limited to 150miles.
1. How far will your 2-meter HT operate without a repeater?
2. Define "specific" and "short distance". The ordinance sure
doesn't.
>Commercial HF stations and HAM radio stations have no 'distance'
>limits at all in ANY regulations that I am aware of, and as such should
>be exempt right there.
>
>HAM radio is NOT for the general public either.
Again, the ordinance doesn't seem to define "general public".
All it would take to ELIMINATE ham radio from this town would be
some irate cop or judge. Or consider the following scenario --
Have you ever experienced cable TV leakage? So that you can hear
the cable TV signals on 2-meters and any time you transmit on 2-meters you
blank out 1 or more channels on the cable system for literally blocks
around? Try explaining that it's the fault of the cable system to somebody
who just keeps repeating "it only happens when you're talking". It could
take months or even years to get the FCC regulation enforced when hundreds
of people are being deprived of "Days of Our Lives" or else "The Simpsons".
I sure hope the city with this ordinance is smarter than this, but
quite often, numbers are more important than being technically correct.
7 3
Earl
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Subject: Re: weekend lawyer question
From: Earl Needham <needhame@yucca.net>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 20:12:54 -0600
X-Message-Number: 16
At 09:25 AM 5/25/2003 -0400, Bob Bruninga wrote:
>To me position information gleaned from a NON HAM source is not a
>"program" or "signal". It is information. Taking the raw Rhino waveform
>and "relaying" it onto HAM frequencies would be against the
>rule. But taking the information a position object received from one
>service and originating it on APRS is fine. Heck we do that with
>Hurricane data all the time!
Just what I had in mind for ACARS 'way back when --
Never did solve the TNC problem for that one...
7 3
Earl
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Subject: Re: DT and 100 pl ?
From: "Tim Cunningham" <tim_cunningham@mindspring.com>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 15:48:23 -0500
X-Message-Number: 17
OK Coe I will bite. If you hear my packets with the 100Hz PL tone give
me a call on the air. Let's see how often we hear each others packet or
anybody else playing APRS VoiceNet. I am sure we can get some attention
or at the very least get some APRS talk going on the local repeater about
what in the world is happening on APRS. It should already be active. If
you have not heard me, then you may be out of my local range (not likely)
or my antenna is busted.
We have the interface all done for the 34/94 machine as soon as I have time
to install it for the Mic-E decode and mute function on the CAT Controller. It
worked great in the initial test when the repeater was down for repair a few
months ago. The mute falsing forced us to use a software DCD along with some
signal level adjustment and conditioning. It should be active very soon.
Tim - N8DEU
Huntsville, Alabama
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Subject: Tier 2 Server Information.
From: "Dick Stanich" <dick@kb7zva.com>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 22:37:4
X-Message-Number: 18
The Tier 2 APRS Server APRSWest.net now has a few new ports that are
pre-configured for ease of operation. These 'filtered' ports are designed
to get the most out of your internet connection and use less bandwidth.
(Please read special note at bottom of this message).
Example:
aprswest.net port 14578 will display stations for the Eastern half of the
USA. You will also see all NWS weather and all messages on the APRS-IS.
Port 14580 is a 'User Definable Port'. You can tell the server exactly what
you want to see based on area range filters, budlists, types of messages,
etc. Once you learn how to send a 'filter' message to the server on that
port, you can extract and 'pull' data from the server. The feed is
completely bidirectional.
This is a partial list of some ports that have been pre-configured. Each
offering special features for APRS users:
23 CW APRSWX Users
1313 Link Port (Read-Ony for other Tier 2 Servers)
1314 Message Only (Bidirectional)
2323 Weather Data Output
10151 Full Feed w/30min. Dump (Output Only)
10152 World-Wide Feed (Bidirectional)
10153 Western States w/30min. Dump (Output Only)
10154 USA Only (Bidirectional)
10155 Europe Only (Bidirectional)
14501 Status Page (html)
14511 Status Page (text)
14578 Regional Eastern USA Feed (Bidirectional)
14579 Regional Western USA Feed (Bidirectional)
14580 User Definable Filter Port (Bidrectional)
To learn more about customizing your APRS internet feed, using port 14580,
visit:
http://kb7zva.com and download or read, Port and Filter Definitions. Also,
look at:
http://aprswest.net:14501 (aprswest stats page).
NOTE:
Would you like to run a Tier 2 server? We can pre-configure a Plug n Play
CD, it is FREE you pay postage. There are some minimum hardware
requirements. Find out! Contact Phil, AD6NH by email: ad6nh@arrl.net for
more details.
Dick, KB7ZVA
APRSWest.net
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