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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Wednesday, May 28, 2003.

1. Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
2. DT and 100 pl ?
3. Pocket APRS 1.94 ack problem
4. Change in Wxsvr Output July 1st
5. Re: DT and 100 pl ?
6. Re: DT and 100 pl ?
7. Re: DT and 100 pl ?
8. Re: DT and 100 pl ?
9. Re: DT and 100 pl ?
10. Re: Findu Problems
11. Re: DT and 100 pl ?
12. RE: Change in Wxsvr Output July 1st
13. Re: DT and 100 pl ?
14. Re: DT and 100 pl ?
15. Re: DT and 100 pl ?
16. Re: DT and 100 pl ?
17. Re: New Feature for All APRS Client Software
18. APRS Client Longevity
19. Re: Pocket APRS 1.94 ack problem
20. RE: APRS Client Longevity
21. DIMM memory
22. A few more maps added to APRSQuery/APRSTrack
23. Re: Pocket APRS 1.94 ack problem
24. Re: Change in Wxsvr Output July 1st
25. Re: APRS Client Longevity
26. Re: APRS Client Longevity

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Subject: Re: 60 buck 120GB Hard Drive
From: Glen Tubbesing <n7got@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:36:27 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1

Or, do what I did and spend about $20 on one of the sleek, ROUND IDE 
cables!  Better air flow, and they look good, too.

Glen N7GOT
Las Vegas, NV

Mark Fellhauer wrote:
>If you are building a new computer these days I would seriously
>recommend looking into Serial ATA (SATA) hard drives.  SATA DVD and
>DVD-recordable is on the way.  CD's and CD-R's are on their way out so
>we may never see an SATA CD drive...  But you can always use that ugly,
>flat, hard-to-deal-with, parallel IDE cable for that.
>
>Regards,
>
>Mark
>KC7BXS

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Subject: DT and 100 pl ?
From: "Coe" <k4coe@hiwaay.net>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 7:59:1
X-Message-Number: 2

THD7A/G 
If I set the transmit PL to 100 will it send pl with posit from the tnc?
(Native mode and/or with PAPRS 1.94)
k4coe

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Subject: Pocket APRS 1.94 ack problem
From: "Coe" <k4coe@hiwaay.net>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 8:4:30
X-Message-Number: 3

Just switched to PAPRS 1.94 and now all messages received are echoed with 
no "to" instead of sending an ack back to the station that sent the message 
to me.  See findu message listing for k4coe for examples.

Any thoughts?  What setting is different from 1.20 to cause this?

de K4COE

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Subject: Change in Wxsvr Output July 1st
From: dale huguley <kg5qd@wxsvr.net>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 15:12:54 +0000
X-Message-Number: 4

Hello all-
Wxsvr has been sending a compressed packet along with the normal 
multiple area packets for over a year.  At the present time Aprs+, 
xastir, and Ui-view support this new format.  In order to clean up the 
datastream,  I will be terminating the uncompressed multiple area  
packets July 1st.  The majority of these occur in the winter months, 
where vast areas can be put under winter weather watches and warnings.  
The other large area bulletin makers are flood advisories.   In the 
winter months the multiple area packets can be as much as 60 per cent of 
the output of Wxsvr-  a waste of bandwidth on the rf side. 

This has no effect on "short fuse" bulletins such as tornadoes, severe 
thunderstorms etc. which fit into one packet already.

See:
http://wxsvr.net/Compressed_Format.html

73 de kg5qd Dale

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Subject: Re: DT and 100 pl ?
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 11:14:08 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 5

On Wed, 28 May 2003, Coe wrote:

>THD7A/G
>If I set the transmit PL to 100 will it send pl with posit from the tnc?
>(Native mode and/or with PAPRS 1.94)

Yes, it will send PL also on the packets.  That is how other people konw
you are in voice simplex range, because then they will hear your packet.

BOb

de WB4APR@amsat.org, Bob

PCsat WEB  page     http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/pcsat.html
ISS-APRS FAQ:       http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/iss-faq.html
CUBESAT Designs     http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/cubesat.html
APRS LIVE pages     http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/aprs.html
APRS SATELLITES     http://www.ew.usna.edu/~bruninga/astars.html
MIM/Mic-E/Mic-Lite  http://ssdl.stanford.edu/mims/

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Subject: Re: DT and 100 pl ?
From: Radio_Q <RAdio_Q@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 09:53:13 -0600
X-Message-Number: 6

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga@usna.edu>

On Wed, 28 May 2003, Coe wrote:

>THD7A/G
>If I set the transmit PL to 100 will it send pl with posit from the tnc?
>(Native mode and/or with PAPRS 1.94)

Yes, it will send PL also on the packets.  That is how other people konw
you are in voice simplex range, because then they will hear your packet.

BOb

Unfortunately, if everyone does this, it's the same as listening to the
packet channel in it's normal mode.   I can only do that for about 1 minute
before I turn off the speaker!!  Thus transmitting a 100Hz PL with the
normal packet traffic negates the entire value of listening on 144.39 with
the PL squelching out all but voice traffic.

Jim

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Subject: Re: DT and 100 pl ?
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 12:12:21 -0400
X-Message-Number: 7

Radio_Q wrote:

>Unfortunately, if everyone does this, it's the same as listening to the
>packet channel in it's normal mode.

Indeed, the success of Voice Alert depends on it not becoming very
popular. 

73,
--Alex KR1ST (official myopic ham)

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Subject: Re: DT and 100 pl ?
From: "Coe" <k4coe@hiwaay.net>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 11:16:54
X-Message-Number: 8

?PL with Packets:

re: Bob's "Yes"  and Jim's  "yeah - but"
Thanks to both.
  
When I was in San Jose, I agree with Jim that would have been intolerably 
annoying.  Even though HSV, AL is 'high tech' we can still get us all 
readably plotted on the middle zoom of a Findu MapBlast, so it might be 
acceptable.  I'll let you know what the feedback is after I run it for a 
while.  Tim C. won't be bashful ;-)

de K4COE

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Subject: Re: DT and 100 pl ?
From: "David Odom" <dodom@mindspring.com>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 12:35:40 -0700
X-Message-Number: 9

I have been running voice alert on my D-700 since it was first suggested. 
I have traveled all over the eastern US from Florida to Vermont.  I have
used it to make contact with other hams a few times but it has never been a
problem.  I heard more packets this last week end than ever before.  I
looked at list and found a fellow ham was 3 miles ahead of me on the
interstate for about 20 miles.  Don't knock it till you try it.

Dave
W4VOR

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Subject: Re: Findu Problems
From: "Coe" <k4coe@hiwaay.net>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 11:47:49
X-Message-Number: 10

On 05/25/03, ""Ken Patterson" <kenp@etex.net>" wrote:
>Thanks all. Musta been an isolated problem that was resolved overnight. de
>Ken, N5EQT

FYI:
There is/was a problem during the tornado outbreak caused by a flurry of 
objects posted with a "#" as part of the object name/label.  MapBlast 
cannot handle that character in the list of nearby 'stations' sent by 
Findu.  Steve (and Dale) are on top of it.  The last one (latest one that I 
saw) should have aged off the 10 day (240 hour) findu listing around the 
24th or 25th.

When/if it happens, just edit the URL that comes back with the error 
message and delete the offending object and its comma.

de K4COE

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Subject: Re: DT and 100 pl ?
From: Radio_Q <RAdio_Q@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 11:02:06 -0600
X-Message-Number: 11

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Odom" <dodom@mindspring.com>
To: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>


I have been running voice alert on my D-700 since it was first suggested. 
..........  Don't knock it till you try it.

Dave
W4VOR

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Dave.

I think we are saying the same thing.  The original query concerned an
individual sending a pl with his normal position packets. 

>On Wed, 28 May 2003, Coe wrote:
>THD7A/G
>If I set the transmit PL to 100 will it send pl with posit from the tnc?
 
Of course if everyone did that, there would be no need to have pl on voice
for the voice alert system to work since we would all be listening to
all of the 'packet racket' waiting for a voice signal.

Jim

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Subject: RE: Change in Wxsvr Output July 1st
From: "Brian Webster" <bwebster@wirelessmapping.com>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 13:07:09 -0400
X-Message-Number: 12

what about winaprs?

Thank you,
Brian 

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