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Subject: Re: xastir review
From: Kirk Mefford <kc2elo@softhome.net>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:42:27 -0400
X-Message-Number: 20
At 03:25 PM 5/19/2003, Curt Mills, WE7U wrote:
>On Sun, 18 May 2003, Kirk Mefford wrote:
>
>>There are a lot of other "little things" you can do once Cygwin is
>>installed that aren't totally related to Xastir that make Cygwin worth the
>>effort of downloading. I have Xastir snapshots automatically converted to
>>jpeg format, resized and uploaded to the internet every 20 minutes thanks
>>to some of the tools of cygwin among other things that just aren't normally
>>possible/easy with just windows.
>
>Another "little" thing you can do with Cygwin/Windows is connect
>over from another Windows/Unix/Linux box and start up an app (like
>Xastir), but throw the display over to the box you're actually
>sitting at. That's a normal thing you can do on any machine running
>Xwindows.
That's one of the "among other things" I'm already doing. Real handy for
showing others what it's all about. I have "inetd" setup so I can telnet
into my win2000 computer and load Xastir from my laptop anywhere I can get
an internet connection, EVEN dialup.
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Subject: Question regarding broadband on power lines
From: "Howard Coleman" <n6vdv@onemain.com>
Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 20:46:08 -0700
X-Message-Number: 21
How would the use of broadband on power lines be functional in an
underground area?
Please, this is a serious question as I do not know the answer. As a former
telco employee for almost 30 years, I'm familiar with how the "ground" for
the Pacific Intertie caused problems on telephones in the Southern
California area a number of years back and am curious regarding broadband.
Howard Coleman N6VDV
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Subject: Re: xastir review
From: Bill Vodall - WA7NWP <wa7nwp@jnos.org>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 16:18:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 22
On Mon, 19 May 2003, Curt Mills, WE7U wrote:
>On Mon, 19 May 2003, Bill Vodall wrote:
>
>>I used Starnet's X11 Windows system for a project. It has a free demo mode
>>that would pop up messages every half hour. Not ideal but good enough to
>>do lots of X11 magic on a Microsoft Windows system.
>>
>> http://www.starnet.com/
>
>But... Cygwin is free, and updated often.
Cygwin is Xwindows?
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Subject: Re: xastir review
From: "J. Lance Cotton" <joe@lightningflash.net>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 18:41:42 -0500
X-Message-Number: 23
>Cygwin is Xwindows?
Yes and no. Cygwin provides things necessary for Linux or Unix programs to be
compiled for and run on windows systems.
One of those Linux/Unix programs is the X Window System. Hence, with Cygwin,
you can run Xwindows.
-Lance
--
J. Lance Cotton, KJ5O
joe@lightningflash.net
Three Step Plan: 1. Take over the world. 2. Get a lot of cookies. 3. Eat the
cookies.
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Subject: Re: xastir review
From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" <archer@eskimo.com>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 16:06:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 24
On Mon, 19 May 2003, Bill Vodall - WA7NWP wrote:
>On Mon, 19 May 2003, Curt Mills, WE7U wrote:
>
>>But... Cygwin is free, and updated often.
>
>Cygwin is Xwindows?
I get the feeling that you already know the answer Bill, but I'll
answer anyway: No, Cygwin is not Xwindows, but it has Xwindows
available as some of it's packages, so it's an easy way to get
Xwindows plus an entire GNU development environment loaded onto your
Windows machine. For free.
Now with the "rootless" or "multi-window" mode (don't know for sure
what it's called), you no longer have to have an Xwindow root window
on your screen from which to run X programs. You now start up an X
program and it displays very similarly to any other Windows app,
right on the Windows desktop. The only other place I've seen that
sort of thing before was with Hummingbird eXceed, which is a
commercial Xwindows package for Windows.
So now the Windows guys can have a nice Xwindows server on there for
no cost except download time. Use the Cygwin Network install over a
fat pipe and you'll have it loaded in no time. Follow the Xastir
instructions to do it and you'll have a free APRS client as well.
Curt, WE7U. archer@eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown
Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U.
The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Subject: Re: xastir review
From: David L Norris <kg9ae@webaugur.com>
Date: 19 May 2003 18:53:07 -0500
X-Message-Number: 25
On Mon, 2003-05-19 at 18:18, Bill Vodall - WA7NWP wrote:
>Cygwin is Xwindows?
CygWin provides a full GNU system, XFree86 and other goodies.
CygWin XFree86 (installed using CygWin setup.exe):
http://cygwin.com/xfree/
--
David Norris, ARS: KG9AE
http://www.webaugur.com/dave/kg9ae/
ICQ - 412039
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Subject: Re: xastir review
From: Kirk Mefford <kc2elo@softhome.net>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 19:36:27 -0400
X-Message-Number: 26
At 07:18 PM 5/19/2003, Bill Vodall - WA7NWP wrote:
>>But... Cygwin is free, and updated often.
>
>Cygwin is Xwindows?
Cygwin is a unix environment for windows that also has Xfree86 available.
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