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Subject: FIPS codes for winaprs 2.7.2
From: "Wes Johnston" <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:37:07 -0400
X-Message-Number: 8
Since I found it such a pain in the rear to switch back and forth between
the FIPS list and the tiger map web page, I have created a FIPS html
document. Just click on your county to download the coresponding tiger
zip file.
http://aprs.optic-solutions.com/fips.htm
Wes
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Subject: In-dash console with off-the-shelf components
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 17:20:42 -0000
X-Message-Number: 9
http://www.target-earth.net/xbox/
This was on Slashdot the other day... shows a nicely done in-dash display
running Linux. This implementation is just for music and movies, but it
could just as easily run APRS with the proper back-end hardware. Anyone
tried compiling Xastir on the X-Box yet? =]
Scott
N1VG
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Subject: Re: FIPS codes for winaprs 2.7.2
From: Robbie <mwrobertson@attbi.com>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:27:17 -0500
X-Message-Number: 10
That's cool Wes, thanks..
Robbie, wa9inf
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Subject: FIPS codes for winaprs 2.7.2 (updated)
From: "Wes Johnston" <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:39:48 -0400
X-Message-Number: 11
Argggghhhhh......
Turns out that most of the states use lower case in the file names. I had
spot checked a few and the ones I checked were all uppercase file names. I
have checked each state / territory now and updated the fips.htm file....
Any further problems, let me know.
http://aprs.optic-solutions.com/fips.htm
Wes
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Subject: Re: FIPS codes for winaprs 2.7.2
From: Mark Sproul <msproul@jove.rutgers.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:33:24 -0400
X-Message-Number: 12
You should not have to do this, if you have the COUNTY OUTLINE file
for the areas loaded, it will display the FIPS codes for you on the
map. I had the same frustration when I started writing the code, so
I made it built in so you did not have to deal with that issue.
The web page is very nice.
Mark
At 12:37 PM -0400 5/12/03, Wes Johnston wrote:
>Since I found it such a pain in the rear to switch back and forth between
>the FIPS list and the tiger map web page, I have created a FIPS html
>document. Just click on your county to download the coresponding tiger
>zip file.
>
>http://aprs.optic-solutions.com/fips.htm
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Mark Sproul |
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Manager - Engineering Computing Services | 732-445-3121
Rutgers University School of Engineering |
Eng D111 |
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Subject: Re: FIPS codes for winaprs 2.7.2 (updated)
From: tvsjr <tvsjr@sprynet.com>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:03:53 -0500
X-Message-Number: 13
For those looking to download a whole state, the data can be accessed via
FTP - ftp://www2.census.gov/geo/tiger/tiger2002/<stateabbrev>/<file>.zip
73,
Terry/N5RSE
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Subject: Re: FIPS codes for winaprs 2.7.2 (updated)
From: "Steve Dimse" <k4hg@tapr.org>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 18:11:36 +0000
X-Message-Number: 14
On Mon, 12 May 2003 13:39:48 -0400, Wes Johnston wrote
>Argggghhhhh......
>
>Turns out that most of the states use lower case in the file
>names. I had spot checked a few and the ones I checked were
>all uppercase file names. I have checked each state /
>territory now and updated the fips.htm file.... Any further
>problems, let me know.
>
>http://aprs.optic-solutions.com/fips.htm
Very nice. This page is very helpful for figuring out which county maps you
need before leaving on trip.
Now, if someone really wants a project, use the map pages available from
the census web site:
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/maps/florida_map.html
These show a map, along with defined regions for each county, and,
saints-be-praised, already linked to fips codes...all you need to do is
write code to change the URL currently on the page to the one to download
the data....for all the thousands of the countries!
Thanks Wes!
Steve K4HG
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Subject: Re: FIPS codes for winaprs 2.7.2 (updated)
From: Mark Sproul <msproul@jove.rutgers.edu>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 14:34:17 -0400
X-Message-Number: 15
Again I would like to point out that the FIPS codes are built into WinAPRS.
Download this file
http://www.census.gov/geo/cob/bdy/co/co00ascii/co99_d00_ascii.zip
Unzip and put in your Tiger folder, now when you zoom in, it will
show you the name and FIPS code for each county. The fipscodes.txt
file must also be present, that is included with the distribution.
This makes it so you don't have to look anything up.
The TIGER MAP LIST shows you the tgrxxyyy file name, the county and
state etc for each file you have in your tiger folder.
The State/County list shows the county outline files. If you have
the one above, it has all 50 states, OR you can just download the
individual outlines for the states you want.
Mark
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Mark Sproul |
http://ecs.rutgers.edu |
msproul@jove.rutgers.edu |
Manager - Engineering Computing Services | 732-445-3121
Rutgers University School of Engineering |
Eng D111 |
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Subject: Important message to the users of APRSeast.net...
From: "Dave Anderson" <dandersn@citicom.com>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:35:42 -0400
X-Message-Number: 16
Mark Foley, NA4V, has "retired" from running a Tier 2 APRSrvr. He recently
ran into a business opportunity that requires him to use his bandwidth for
other purposes.
AprsFL has agreed to handle the users of APRSEast and take over the
aprseast.net domain so that there is no interuption in service to any of
NA4V's users. What does this mean for users of his service now? You'll
see no change. Next time you re-connect, you'll most likely hit the APRSfl
server versus Mark's. All of our port assignments line up with his as well.
We thank Mark for his dedication to APRS, and wish him well in his new
endeavor. Mark will continue to be involved in APRS, and continue to run an
IGate.
About APRSFl -- I run a Tier 2 Core APRS-IS server using javAPRSrvr. I own
a ISP business, and the server sits in our hardened data center, on a Dual
OC-3 Sonet fiber system. The server sits on a gigabit ethernet backbone in
our noderoom, having a DS3 of connectivity with both AT&T and Sprintlink
(soon UUnet too). I think you'll find I have the capacity to handle both
filtered, but full APRS feeds as well at our site.
I also operate the KG4YZY-10 Wide DIGI and IGate in Port Richey, Florida.
Any questions, comments, or suggestions, let me know.
73 de Dave
KG4YZY
www.aprsfl.net
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Subject: Re: APRS, How Much RAM is TOO Much?
From: "Mark Fellhauer" <sparkfel@qwest.net>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 14:55:19 -0500
X-Message-Number: 17
At 08:20 AM 5/12/2003, Gregg G. Wonderly wrote:
>>I really like this program, but how much
>>RAM to run 'em seems pretty astronomical
>>now-a-dayz...
>>
>>The new version of MacAPRS takes 95MB RAM~!
>>I only HAVE 128. When I can't even
>>open Netscape without the computer telling
>>me to shut something OFF, w/128MB of RAM memory,
>>I'd say we're reaching a limit.
>
>If you have more RAM than you have slots for, then you have too much.
>Otherwise, stuff every slot with the largest stick it will swallow.
Again, as I pointed out before Matt is running MACAPRS, which presumes he's
using an APPLE computer. Many "older" Mac's are limited by design or OS as
to how much RAM they can use (as are many PC's of the same era). As in my
previous example, the 5 flavor or Bondi iMac's, (depending on model) are
limited to a maximum of 128MB (64MB per slot). Later models can take up to
512MB of RAM, but I believe you need a fairly recent OS to take advantage
of more than 128MB RAM. I also think you need to install memory in MAC's
in matching pairs, also (or at least it's recommended). At current rates
to upgrade an original iMac G3 233 past 128MB RAM (post OS 8.1 with more
than 2MB VRAM) with certified RAM that has a warranty you would have to
spend somewhere between 80 and 160 dollars. Not to mention the $90 upgrade
to OS X 10.2. All this for a computer with a current street value of about
$300...
http://jeffcoweb.jeffco.k12.co.us/itsr/Computer/os_ram_matrix_mac.htm
Adding memory to older Apple computers is generally not as simple as adding
memory to a PC. There are physical clearance, timing, and latency issues,
that can make Mac's very finicky as to what RAM they use. Although this
can also be an issue with many PC motherboards, too. A lot of people
think that more RAM is better in a PC, and go overboard. If you have an
older system with Windows 98, going to RAM above 256MB is a waste of effort
and money.
I have had many clients complain that after adding more RAM to a PC they've
experienced excessive slowdowns in POST and boot, and no apparent gains in
computer performance. This seems to be dependent on the motherboard, the
RAM, the BIOS version and settings, etc... YMMV.
Funny memory story:
I have a cantankerous client that insisted her laser printer was "slowing
down." I assured her that was impossible. But at her insistence I did a
service call. I found the printed specs, 18 seconds to first paper pull, 4
pages per minute after that. With stopwatch in hand we ran a big print
job - 18.1 seconds after clicking the print button the first sheet pulled,
and it printed about 75 sheets at a regular 4 PPM after that. Satisfied
that I had proven my point, she insisted "that it used to be faster." I
could do nothing to get her to believe me. Finally I told her to call HP
and ask them. She did, and they assured her there was no way, no how, that
printer's platen would ever print pages faster than 4 PPM, no matter
what. After getting off the phone with HP, she turned to me and said, "I
want you to add more RAM to the printer so it will print faster..." DOH!
>For many PCs, the transisition to virtual memory is overwhelmingly influenced
>by disk speed. You are not supposed to hear the disk chattering while you're
>using your computer. If you do, you don't have enough physical memory.
That's a good rule of thumb, but not always true. Plenty of "back web" and
"go back" software will cause your drives to run at what appears to be an
excessive rate. Certain drives are louder and slower than others, just
like any mechanical device. I have a client that has 3 identical 733 PIII
Gateway machines that were ordered, built, and shipped at the same
time. All have 384MB of RAM with Win2K, and one of them has a drive that
chatters more and is physically much louder than the other two, and has
been like that since day one. I used to worry about it, but the drive
hasn't really shown any problems in almost three years...and since we do a
full recycle backup on it every night, I'm not gonna be that upset when it
fails...
Again, adding a new disk controller is not an option for many people using
Non-PC computers.
>My historical experience with Compaq has been that they build computers with
>the cheapest, and oldest technology for disk storage that they can. The
>package will say UDMA-100 controller and have a UDMA-66 disk that has
>horrible
>performance, and sounds like a can of rocks shaking, or a UDMA-66 controller
>with a regular 33Mhz
>ATA drive. Other computer makers seem to do similar things.
I agree, most box computers sold at department stores are built to the
lowest common denominator and are horribly I/O bound. But that doesn't
mean that a custom-ordered custom-built computer will be any better...
HP, Compaq, eMachines, etc. are really poor performers, but the bottom end
Dell and Gateway systems are no better. Dell has recently outsourced a
good portion of it's call center services to India, and the last two times
I've called them on warranty issues, I've gotten connected to foreign
representatives that could barely speak English and were completely
reluctant to replace obviously defective components under the terms of
their written warranty. Shame on Dell for replacing a U.S. or Canadian
who would be making 25K+ a year plus bennies with an unskilled
script-reader from a 3rd-world country. Whatever happened to the Ford idea
of paying your employees enough to buy the products they make? I don't
want to get on a rant here, folks, but I believe we are entering a new era
of robber barons...
>Many people build their own computers specifically to deal with this issue.
>And, typically, you can buy a good replacement set of components for close to
>half the price of a new computer at the store...
Again this is great for the PC users out there. Components are cheap, but
getting your hands on a legal MS OS and Productivity Suite will cost more
than buying a whole new Dept. Store computer...
People who "think different" aren't afforded such choices.
73,
Mark
KC7BXS
"Think" is a transitive verb. "Different" is an adjective. It is improper
to modify a verb with an adjective in Websterian English. This is grade
school stuff people... Apparently Apple's Marketing people grammar
different, too. Me, I like adverbs.
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