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Subject: RE: Grocery Store swipe cards;Sponsorship
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 19:09:08 -0000
X-Message-Number: 31

A mileage based rewards program?  Sounds good to me... my friends and I can
all make copies of each other's cards, to swipe at opposite ends of the
trail.  Watch the 500 MPH hikers on FindU!

I don't know about long-term suvivability of barcode scanners outdoors.  A
passive RFID tag would be ideal, but you'd have to distribute them, and the
readers aren't cheap.  Punch cards would be easy to do.  Heck, users could
even make 'em at home... just print out the pattern on appropriate card
stock, and use a standard hole punch to make holes in the appropriate
places.  Twenty holes would allow for over a million unique cards.  And
working on transmitted light, I think they'd be more reliable than barcodes
using reflected light.

Scott

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Subject: EMERGENCY BEACON EA8EE/MM(?)
From: "Christensen, Eric Harlan" <CHRISTENSENE@MAIL.ECU.EDU>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 15:10:41 -0400
X-Message-Number: 32

There is an emergency beacon coming from EA8MM.  His last position put him
in the Canary Islands.  Is there anyone near him that could give him a call?
He is advertising monitoring 29.600MHz.

>From findu:

14.8 miles northwest of LAS PALMAS, (SPAIN) CANARY IS.

Status: 011318zQRV 29.600 FM PLEASE CALL ME (WWW.ECHOLINK.TK)

Report received 2 hours 44 minutes 40 seconds ago

Raw packet:
EA8EE>APD215,21117*,WIDE7-5,TRACE7-7,qAR,DB1VW:=2815.00N/01540.00WY000/000/M
ic-E/M7/EMERGENCY. >

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Subject: RE: Appalachain Trail
From: Dave VanHorn <dvanhorn@cedar.net>
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 14:17:35 -0500
X-Message-Number: 33

>Now THAT sounds interesting!  Not for this application, but I wonder...

Depends on cost. They were targeting laptops, because you could take out 
another o.25" or so, if you eliminate the keyboard.
VERY rugged though, just wipe the optical window once in a while.

If I were doing this, I'd think in terms of a hall effect switch array 
under about 3/8" of lexan, and a magnetic "poker".
That, or a scanned array of leds under the lexan, using the barcode pen to 
"see" the which LED is on at the moment.
Pens are not vandal resistant, but they are cheap when bought surplus.

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Subject: Re: Appalachain Trail;Swipe readers;Emergencies
From: "Wes Johnston" <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 15:26:40 -0400
X-Message-Number: 34

Really thinking about this....

a pic or basic stamp can sleep with uA current draw.
kpc3 tnc draws 9mA with led's off...
a PIC can power down the radio and TNC when they are not in use... of course
that kinda blows using each station as a digipeater for the next deeper one
in the woods...

Hiker can either power up the unit by pushing a big red button for 5
seconds, or use a PIR motion sensor tied to the pic.

Hiker swipes a card.... why not a food lion or bi-lo "low price" card on
his/her keychain?  I don't want to use my driver's licensse or credit card.
The PIC sends the hiker's ID out on the air and the 'home base" upon hearing
a station TX's any messages waiting in queue.

If you are going to RX text messages, you need a way for the user  to scroll
them... so you may as well use the up/dn scroll buttons to enter text...
like waypoints on my GPS.... up/dn , left/right, right press for a long time
( >1sec) is <enter>.

Can we get home land security money for this?  never know when you'll find a
taliban sleeper cell. <grin>

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Subject: Re: Appalachain Trail;Swipe readers
From: Dave VanHorn <dvanhorn@cedar.net>
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 14:34:06 -0500
X-Message-Number: 35

At 02:59 PM 5/5/2003 -0400, Glenn Little WB4UIV wrote:
>A company that I worked for did card access for antenna sites. The problem 
>with mag card readers in the field is bugs including wasps. They appear to 
>be attracted to the warmth of the electronics and the sheltering provided 
>to them by the card reader slot. We hat to abandon mag card readers an go 
>to prox cards. With these the person with the card only had to wave it 
>close to the reader.

Critters LOVE electronics.  I've seen roaches eat through lead sheathing(!) 
to get to the insulation in a phone cable.
I've also seen enough roaches in a tape player to stop the 1/3HP motor. 
That was at a KFC restaurant.
Remember, if the roaches won't eat there, you shouldn't either! :)

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Subject: RE: Grocery Store swipe cards;Sponsorship
From: Dave VanHorn <dvanhorn@cedar.net>
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 14:57:05 -0500
X-Message-Number: 36

>I don't know about long-term suvivability of barcode scanners outdoors.

they can be had surplus for $5-10 each. How long do they have to live?

>A
>passive RFID tag would be ideal, but you'd have to distribute them, and the
>readers aren't cheap.

You'd be surprised.  Check out the microchip web site.

> Punch cards would be easy to do.

Except for the reader, and the card getting folded, torn etc..

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Subject: software
From: "Pat Murphy" <n5zvh@junct.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 15:11:24 -0500
X-Message-Number: 37

Could anyone help me with a source for the APRS software on CD. I do not do
zip files period. I am trying to get set up with APRS, but cannot get the
software. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Pat-NJ5M

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Subject: Filtered Outbreak File
From: dale huguley <kg5qd@wxsvr.net>
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 16:18:46 -0400
X-Message-Number: 38

Hi All-
I filtered the Outbreak file to remove "SKY" messages, the kill objects 
that erased plots when they expired, and the "SVS" plots which are 
statements and not warnings.- A little less cluttered that way.  This 
would be a good file to keep for demo of aprs in WX situations. it is at :
http://wxsvr.net/tmp/0504filter.txt

and the snapshot of xastir is at:
http://wxsvr.net/tmp/outfilter.png

73 de kg5qd Dale

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Subject: WinAPRS 2.7.0 released TIGER SUPPROT
From: Mark Sproul <msproul@jove.rutgers.edu>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 16:20:51 -0400
X-Message-Number: 39

WinAPRS 2.7.0 is now up on the server

	http://www.winaprs.org

To go straight to the download page

	http://winaprs.org/downloads/

There is still alot more that is going to happen with this feature

	Color theme support, this is started but not finished. The ability
	for the user to define color themes for the maps and save them

	Faster drawing- there will be an option to save the maps out
	in binary format for quicker loading and smaller disk space.
	This feature will be built into the program so useres do not
	have to rely on map makers to generate the binaries.

	Support for more of the TIGER data.



 From my previous announcment

WinAPRS, MacAPRS and X-APRS now support US Census Bureau TIGER MAP 
DATA for the best yet in APRS maps. All of the US plus Puerto Rico, 
American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, U.S. Virgin Islands 
are included in this coverage.

The map data is free of charge and IS UPDATED EVERY YEAR!!!!!!!!

The US Census Bureau has mapping data for the entire USA that is the 
best in the world, most of the major mapping companies start out with 
the data from them. This data is called TIGER Topologically 
Integrated Geographic Encoding and Referencing system This data is 
very good and is updated every year. However it takes lots of memory 
to deal with it. Previously with WinAPRS, there has not been enough 
memory or CPU power to deal with this data directly, previous 
versions of maps for use with WinAPRS have been derived from this 
data but a lot of the information was lost when converted. Now 
WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS uses the data directly and you can see that 
the maps are the best yet for APRS.

Please refer to http://www.winaprs.com/WAPRSdoc.htm#TigerMaps for full details.

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Subject: RE: Appalachain Trail
From: "Kurt O. Jauss" <kf6hjo@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 13:35:09 -0700
X-Message-Number: 40

Maybe Florida has some extra voting machines we could get and..... ;-)

I can see  "CHADS" all over the trail.

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