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Subject: 270 bug report
From: Jim Duncan <jdbandman@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 18:40:07 -0500
X-Message-Number: 53
Restarted WAPRS 270. Did NOT open a Tiger Map and started TCP/IP to
third.aprs.net again. No Error.
Re-opened Tiger map. NO problem. Toggled WX warnings and immediately
got multiple UHEE's and terminal crash.
With all due respect, from what I've experienced so far, I'm not sure
that 2.7.0 is ready for prime-time, folks....
Can anyone else duplicate these problems?
--
73 de Jim, KU0G
Chairman/Coordinator
Kansas City APRS Working Group, W0APR
First Alert Storm Team KMBC-TV9
Mailto:ku0g@kcaprs.org
Webpage: http://www.kcaprs.org
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Subject: Spring 2003 issue of Packet Status Register (PSR) now available
From: Stan Horzepa <stanzepa@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:00:28 -0400
X-Message-Number: 54
The Spring 2003 issue of Packet Status Register (PSR), TAPR=B9s quarterly
newsletter is now available at the TAPR web site (www.tapr.org).
This issue of PSR has the following contents:
802.11b Used in Ham's Shuttle Recovery Efforts by Doug Kilgore, KD5OUG
A New Tactical Reporting Protocol by Scott Miller, N1VG
Announcing N2YGK's Linux aprsdigi Version 2.4.3 3 by Alan
Crosswell, N2YGK
APRS IP Mobile in a Non-Dynamic Wireless Environment or 802.11 APRS by
Darryl Smith, VK2TDS
Portable Tactical Digital Communications Using Off-the-Shelf Consumer
Components by Ed Carp, N7EKG
President's Corner: Dayton, Directors and the DCC by John Ackermann, N8UR
Real Networking: Is It the Key to Keeping & Reviving Packet? by Ron Sauer,
K9RKI
Revitalizing "Plain" Packet by Jim Wagner, KA7EHK
TAPR and ARRL 22nd Annual Digital Communications Conference
TAPR Membership by Darryl Smith, VK2TDS
TAPR Order Form
WA8WDQ Replaces K0PFX on TAPR Board
Welcome to Jeannie, The House That Listens by Don Marquardt, K9SOA
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Subject: Re: EMERGENCY BEACON EA8EE/MM(?)
From: "Cap Pennell" <cap@cruzio.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 17:17:49 -0700
X-Message-Number: 55
There's a page at
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/emergency.cgi
for a start.
73, Cap KE6AFE
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Subject: Re: Appalachian Trail
From: John <bigjohn45@cox.net>
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:30:14 -0400
X-Message-Number: 56
I would suggest just a simple keypad for the remote locations. Perhaps
rescued from an old pay phone if you could find some.
The user registers via web either at home or at secure locations along the
trail. As part of the process of registration the hiker could specify an
email address to receive updates on their location. When any information
is entered an email is generated. As an adjunct it might be possible to
make the system bidirectional using an LED array. A green light could
indicate that the message was acked and is in the system. If mail awaits a
red LED blinks x-times to clue the hiker to check the next main terminal.
I am thinking of places like the Walasi-Yi Center at Neels Gap GA for
secure terminals http://georgiatrails.com/trails/appal3.html
At remote locations the hiker taps in their code and a status message from
a cheat sheet printed from the web or one located under Plexiglass at the
kiosk. Given that the location of the kiosk is know when it was installed
there is no need for the hiker to enter a posit, only direction and
anticipated speed for the next leg. Basically all that is needed in the
remote site is a keypad, PIC, radio,with perhaps a battery, and solar panel
if AC is not available. All of this could be mounted in a strong steel box
like the ones along many interstate highways.
At the secure locations terminals could be setup that would show all
hikers approximate location. These terminals could also offer internet
access of the owner so chooses. The main website should function like
FINDU with enhancements.
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Subject: Local: Los Angeles APRS Demo at SGVRC Tuesday Night
From: Frank <kg6jve@pasadena.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 17:31:21 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 57
Presentation by:
Frank Keeney, KG6JVE
Stephen Smith, WA8LMF, http://www.wa8lmf.com
The San Gabriel Valley Radio Club is having a demo of APRS 7pm May 6th,
Tomorrow
We'll be there to demonstrate this mode and answer any questions. We'll
have several live APRS stations with UI-View, Xastir, APRS+SA and other
equipment.
There is no charge for the meeting. Please forward this to any interested.
Location in the Community Room at Arcadia Park:
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=sgvrc
In APRS go to the SGVRC object.
What is APRS:
APRS is a system which uses amateur radio to transmit position reports,
weather reports, and messages between users. APRS was developed by Bob
Bruninga, WB4APR, for tracking and digital communications with mobile GPS
equipped stations with two-way radio. In the 10 years since its
introduction, it has grown to encompass just about every aspect of Amateur
Radio
Frank Keeney
KG6JVE
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Subject: RE: 270 bug report
From: "Bill Diaz" <william.diaz@attbi.com>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 19:52:01 -0500
X-Message-Number: 58
I get unhandled exceptions less than a minute after connecting to
firenet.us.
Using Precision Mapping streets, not Tiger.
WinXp, 1.7G Pentium laptop
Bill
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Subject: Tiger map files question
From: "Jacob Tennant" <k8jwt@ntelos.net>
Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 21:51:38 -0400
X-Message-Number: 59
Where are we supposed to put the tiger map files?
On the WnAPRS documentation it says to put them in a folder named "Tiger".
When I tried the tiger maps all I get is a window saying that it is trying
to download image then finally a funky looking map of my area.
Jacob Tennant K8JWT
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Subject: Re: WAS: KCAPRS Site... IS GROWTH..
From: Jim Duncan <jdbandman@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 20:56:32 -0500
X-Message-Number: 60
Well, since Rich has spoken, let me chime in as well...
The days of backward compatibility need to go by the wayside.
Realistically, how many people are still using even a 386-class machine
for APRS?
As evidence, I submit the fact that Bob Bruninga (with NO disrespect
intended in any way, shape, or form!) has stopped developing DOS-based
APRS and moved on to other things.
We are STILL sadly lacking of a serious ON-AIR backbone.
We are STILL operating at the earth-shattering on-air speed of 1200
baud!
We are STILL running APRS with a 1980's mentality.
We are TWENTY YEARS BEHIND the technology for crying out loud!!!!
I submit that amateur radio is rapidly losing (if it hasn't already!)
it's technical edge on the market. It's up to US (the movers and
shakers of ham radio) to develop this APRS technology and return our
focus to doing what we do ON THE AIR and NOT relying upon the internet
to do it for us! I'm not just talking about APRS, either. The EchoLink
software is an excellent tool but when a ham doesn't even have to buy a
radio any longer how long will it be before Kenwood, Yaesu, and so forth
abandon the amateur market?
Let's get this show back on the road, folks. It's LONG overdue. We,
the APRS community, now have a significant clout out there. We
represent a statistically significant population and that clout should
be used to encourage the manufacturers to support us in pursuing
advanced communications technologies.
I believe that the only place for 1200 baud to remain is in the remote
mobile situation where 9600 (or higher) isn't reliable (yet!). This
technology should remain on a specific frequency but I believe, now more
than ever, that fixed stations need to move up to 9600 baud (again, or
HIGHER!) and a system of crossover bridges between the different levels
of users should be designed and implemented.
Is it any wonder why nobody is intrigued by amateur radio any more? We
are ANTIQUATED and our own stubborn nature in not embracing new and
potentially standard-setting technologies has left us sitting in our
big, comfortable easy-chairs.
So, I say (as I have before!), leave the internet alone except for
point-to-point linking and return our focus to ON-THE-AIR communications
and exploring the means of packing more data into the same bandwidth!
--
73 de Jim, KU0G
Chairman/Coordinator
Kansas City APRS Working Group, W0APR
First Alert Storm Team KMBC-TV9
Mailto:ku0g@kcaprs.org
Webpage: http://www.kcaprs.org
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Subject: Re: Tiger map files question
From: Jim Duncan <jdbandman@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 21:08:15 -0500
X-Message-Number: 62
The new version has two confusing Tiger Maps options. The second entry
(the old entry) SHOULD be discontinued in favor of the new Map Choice
which is the first one on the list. I ran into this same problem,
Jacob...
I remain gravely concerned that 2.7.0 has been rushed out the door to
make the annual Dayton release precedent. With this leap forward, the
Sprouls probably should have sent this out to a limited number of beta
testers to do everything they could to crash the software and find it's
weaknesses.
I think that we can all be assured that the bug reports are being read
and, if I know Mark and Keith at all, they're diligently coding to clean
up these bugs right now!
--
73 de Jim, KU0G
Chairman/Coordinator
Kansas City APRS Working Group, W0APR
First Alert Storm Team KMBC-TV9
Mailto:ku0g@kcaprs.org
Webpage: http://www.kcaprs.org
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