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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Sunday, May 04, 2003.
1. RABBIT TNC
2. RE: Winlink Stations on the IS
3. Re: You guys brought up some really good points...
4. RE: Winlink Stations on the IS
5. KCAPRS Group
6. Re: KCAPRS Group
7. d7a question
8. Holes in coverage
9. Re: [ Rich Garcia ] WANTED: 72 Pin SIMMS for Xastir Box
10. Re: APRS Pager?
11. Re: [ Rich Garcia ] WANTED: 72 Pin SIMMS for Xastir Box
12. Re: APRS to Dayton
13. Re: Holes in coverage
14. Re: APRS Pager?
15. Tiger maps in WinAPRS
16. Re: Tiger maps in WinAPRS
17. Re: D700 BBS
18. DeLorme Earthmate GPS
19. Re: D700 BBS
20. KCAPRS site....
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Subject: RABBIT TNC
From: "Darryl Smith" <Darryl@radio-active.net.au>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 20:23:49 +1000
X-Message-Number: 1
>From: "Andrew Rich" <andrew.rich@bigpond.com>
>What happened to the Rabbit TNC development ?
>
>Has all gorn quiet
>
>Andrew VK4TEC
Well...
I am still working on it. The issue is that no-one seems to want to help
with the programming... And I have been needing to earn some money in my
business... I want to get back into it, but right now I need some
help... Actual help.
Darrykl
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Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia
Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International]
Darryl@radio-active.net.au | www.radio-active.net.au
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Subject: RE: Winlink Stations on the IS
From: WB4GQK@aol.com
Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 08:43:51 EDT
X-Message-Number: 2
On -03-05-03 Erick wrote:
>
>I'm curious about this. I live on the water and am always on the lookout
>for MMs that might be passing by. I always check findu to see position
>reports from the MM that are on Winlink. Why can't we get those position
>reports put over the IS instead of just findu so I can just consult my local
>APRS screen? I'm not sure where the data entry point is buy maybe Steve can
>give us a few words of wisdom?
I also live on the water and my sailboat is tied behind my house. I go aboard
several times a week to work friends on Marine SSB. I have a Kam'98
permanently installed which is connected to an Icom M800 SSB (works ham bands
also). There are two basic problems why you don't see more MMs on APRS. The
number of cruising boats that have TNCs aboard is truely amazing specially
hams. However the major TNC used is the SCS PTCIIe. Obiviously there is at
least one APRS program that works with this modem. But the problem is just
about none of them transmit ANYTHING while underway, simply because they
experience interference with their autopilots! I know what you are thinking
and yes I have worked on several boats in an attempt to correct this problem
but it is very difficult to resolve all the RF leakage! The second reason is
they ALL transfer email with family/friends and while they are connected to
Winlink stations they also include their position reports.
On the other side of the question I transmitted APRS position reports , one
every hr on the race between Tampa Bay and Isla Mujeres MX , 519 miles. My
XYL ,N4TFP, who had to stay with her mom would walk into our radio room any
time of day or night and observe our posit. Very obviously my system does not
have a lot of RF floating around, but we had to run the 6 KW genset for 30
minutes every 3 hours to keep the batteries charged. We were sailing without
prime mover running. Autopilot was a big user of DC power as well as
laptop/TNC/SSB/running lights.
I don't really see a way around these two reasons. The Winlink users are
satisfied with their use of the system. By the way they only seem to send
messages when they are anchored.
73 Jim wb4gqk
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Subject: Re: You guys brought up some really good points...
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 05:56:25 -0700
X-Message-Number: 3
----- Original Message -----
From: "T C" <boytroy54@yahoo.com>
To: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 7:16 PM
Subject: [aprssig] You guys brought up some really good points...
>Gentlemen,
>
>You all have brought up some really good points, and our
>Digital Group here in Lansing needs to determine a more
>defined approach to using APRS for S.E.T.'s. We need some
>ideas/guidelines for setting up the EOC for APRS
>functionality.
APRS is a low cost tactical "resource" for an EOC. Here are some selling
points...
.....Gives Tactical Commanders a common picture of an Incident in Near-Real
Time!
.....Allows shared data among and between Incident Operating System!
.....Gives the ability to concentrate resource power Effectively and
Decisively.
.....Allows Fusion and Display of Intelligence Information to Commanders at
ALL Levels.
.....Allows Rapid Exchange of Incident Data from Sensors to Tracking.
You can get more ideas on FireNet www.dwrracesupport.com/fire
Now, Amateur Radio Operators really have to work on those selling points,
but that is what APRS can do for an EOC and bringing FireNet into an EOC is
a really good start at getting with the program! FIRENET is also an
excellent resource for the newly forming Community Emergency Response Teams
(CERT) that are forming right now, across the USA, which I hope all
Amateurs become trained in and be part of.
Tactical decisions within an EOC/CP must be based on reliable knowledge of
threats, including hazards identification, location, direction, etc. Think
of knowing the environment. APRS is TACTICAL, not Analytic. It's best use
is bringing sensor and tracking data (environmental knowledge) into command
or control centers. On local incidents, no one can do this better than
APRS unless the military battle command gets involved. This knowledge needs
to be derived based on physical characteristics which can be seen 24/7,
coordinated over a large area and correlated. FireNet is a communications
link, a data collection resource, that can be used to get information into
command or control centers where the information is displayed in a form
where it is easily and reliably understood and used. Ultimately, imagery is
by far the most reliable source of information, but presents the greatest
challenges in size, cost, complexity, and power. FireNet, as a resource,
can provide good information that is needed without the high costs of
advanced sensor technology that smaller communities just can not afford.
Hope that gives you some food for thought!
Jim, WA6OFT
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Subject: RE: Winlink Stations on the IS
From: "Joe Della Barba" <joe@dellabarba.com>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 09:23:26 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4
I used to work as a marine electronics tech and I could NEVER get an
autopilot and SSB to play nice with each other.
Joe
73 de N3HGB m/m
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Subject: KCAPRS Group
From: James Smith <k9apr@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 11:27:46 -0500
X-Message-Number: 5
Has the Kansas City APRS Working Group become history? went to their
website today and it come up Krell Technologies. Just curious...
--
73, James, K9APR Webmaster Webmaster
Chairman \ Coordinator Indiana Repeater Council Henry Co.
Amateur Radio Club
Tri-State APRS Working Group http://www.ircinc.org
http://www.qsl.net/hcara
http://www.tawg.org
mailto:k9apr@tawg.org
Run a APRS Website? Why not join the APRS Webring. http://www.tawg.org/join.htm
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Subject: Re: KCAPRS Group
From: "Wes Johnston" <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 14:21:18 -0400
X-Message-Number: 6
Weren't the KRELL the alien race of super intelligent beings in the 1950's
sci fi movie "forbidden planet"? Seems kinda ironic that people in a city
named after a completly different state would presume themselves to be super
intelligent.... <ducking> lol.
Wes
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Subject: d7a question
From: "Wes Johnston" <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 14:32:52 -0400
X-Message-Number: 7
I have the use of a d7a(g), and want to use it w/o a gps. I have entered my
posit in one of the posit buffers, and told it to not use GPS. However it
still reports my posit as back at the last place (ie far from here) that I
last had a GPS hooked to it.
What else to I need to do?
Wes
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Subject: Holes in coverage
From: "Wes Johnston" <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Sun, 4 May 2003 14:59:31 -0400
X-Message-Number: 8
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/breadcrumb.cgi?call=kd4rdb-14&geo=http://imscor
poration.com/kd4rdb/southeast.geo&start=10000
I just looked at my bread crumb trail for the past several months. I've
been as far south as savannah ga, and west as far as I-75 under atlanta. I
couldn't help but notice the big gap from just east of augusta and where I
got off i-20 half way to atlanta. Also from Saint George SC south to the SC
GA line.
Here's the thought... we need to fill in the areas between major cities
mainly along interstates. Interstates have very tall billboards on them.
Put a simple digipeater on a billboard every 20 miles. The antenna can
either hang down upside down under the platform or if the signs are plywood,
can be sandwitched between the "upstream" and "downstream" signs. Heck, you
could even hook up a battery charger to the sign's lighting so the
digipeater would run on batteries by day and recharge at night.
Anyone in "good" with any billboard companies?
Wes
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