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Subject: Re: kpc3 questions?
From: Dave VanHorn <dvanhorn@cedar.net>
Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 13:26:25 -0500
X-Message-Number: 11
At 02:08 PM 5/3/2003 -0400, Wes Johnston wrote:
>To catch up with my progress....
>
>I have a kpc3 (not plus) tnc which is misbehaving. Initially, I found that
>at power up the power LED would glow normally, then after 1/2 a second would
>get brighter. I found the VR1 regulator was bad and was putting out 5.65
>volts. Replaced the regulator.
5.65V shouldn't have damaged anything.
However, it may have been trying to go much higher, and limited to that by
the current dumping through the other damaged device.
Was this powered from a vehicle 12V line by chance?
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Subject: RE: APRS-enhanced sheep
From: Gerry Creager N5JXS <gerry.creager@tamu.edu>
Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 13:32:47 -0500
X-Message-Number: 12
The Irish sheep have been around for at least 5 years. Cows In Space,
however, predates them, and was reported in professional (GIS/LIS)
literature long before they claimed to even exist!
Gerry
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Subject: RE: APRS-enhanced sheep
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 12:19:02 -0700
X-Message-Number: 13
Gerry and Scott!
They had/have "Ducks in Space" too!
I've been tracking a Seal off the east coast for some time that was released
some time back with a satellite tag/transmitter. Her name is Jersey Girl.
There are dozens of animal tracking events taking place at any given time.
I've been searching for the near-real time data but can not seem to find it
and do not have access to the ARGOS Sat feed....If'n I did, I very much want
to get this data on FireNet. This data would be one of the best ways I know
of to introduce kids to APRS/Ham radio/Science!
It seems most of this data is pointed at analytical data rather that for
tactical purposes....but if we could get ahold of it, would make for an
interesting APRS project!
One of the issues with satellite tags, is that the satellite might not
"hear" the transmitter for days and days and maybe even weeks!
People are tracking sharks as well! They tag a Great White with ultra sonic
transmitters and then use buoys and vessels that drop receivers in the water
and try to triangulate their position.
All sorts of neat tracking going on!
Jim, WA6OFT
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Subject: Re: Hidden Transmitters WAS: APRS FINDU game.
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com
Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 15:39:13 EDT
X-Message-Number: 14
Byonics, of TinyTrak fame, also makes an automatic keyer device ( the
"PicCon") specifically for hidden transmitter hunts. Check this out at the
Byonics website:
http://www.byonics.com/piccon/index.html
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf @ aol.com
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com
Ham Radio/Mobile SSTV page: http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/ham
APRS Stuff
http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs
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Subject: Re: APRS Pager?
From: "Dave Sloan" <desloan@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 15:59:47 -0600
X-Message-Number: 17
Hi Troy,
You said "I don't forsee the need in a lot of disaster situations
where APRS would be needed. I do see the need for packet
in every disaster situation, so I think there is a time and
a place for each disipline." I can think of a LOT of uses for APRS in
disaster situations. Did you really mean that you don't forsee the need in
a lot of disaster situations where APRS would be needed?
73,
Dave N0EOP
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Subject: APRS In Emergencies; Was Re: APRS Pager?
From: Randy Allen <ka0azs@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 18:32:29 -0400
X-Message-Number: 18
T C wrote:
>I don't forsee the need in a lot of disaster situations
>where APRS would be needed. I do see the need for packet
>in every disaster situation, so I think there is a time and
>a place for each disipline.
This may be a matter of local perspective.
My local EMA is VERY interested in the ability to track vehicles (such
as evacuation buses, supply trucks, etc.), and real time weather without
tying up voice frequencies. Packet has not generated as much interest
with them. It falls under the "how ever you guys can pass the
information, don't bother us with the details" department. Maybe it's a
GUI vs Command Line thing ;-)
I agree that each has it's place. Packet is THE way to pass things
such as long supply lists. Given recent changes in Federal Law (HIPA I
think is the title of the act), it looks like passing things such as
casualty and shelter population lists are a thing of the past so long as
Amateur Radio is not allowed to encrypt the data.
In addition to tracking and weather, I would also make use of the APRS
Bulletin features, and Object placement to help maintain situational
awareness for EOC and deployed operators.
One way I envision using it, is to use position display to see who is
located in the area I need to pass traffic, and either call them on
Voice, or use a short APRS message to give a frequency to QSY to and
switch software to packet to pass lists, etc, and QSY back to 144.39
once traffic is passed. Their position report would also give me an aim
point for my beam if needed.
Packet "...in every disaster situation..."? Not in this area. In
fact, it has been used very rarely for actual call outs since I've been
active here, if ever. I know of ONE public service event it has been
used for (passing scores between separate locations).
I can see using APRS in a great many scenarios in this area, and
packet only in a very limited role. I am planning under the assumption
that anyone with a full up APRS station (Radio, TNC, and computer) can
be pressed into service as a packet station. Most of the local APRS
operators came to this from packet, and can switch over as needed.
Others, like me, who would never have bought a TNC if not for APRS, are
trainable. But that IS something I'm going to have to give consideration
to for training and exercises.
Getting back the original thread, I see possible use of APRS for
tripping pagers as a possible adjunct to other notification systems, but
do have concerns about using such an active frequency for this purpose.
We are working towards a multi layered approach to ensure SOMETHING gets
out to SOMEONE to get the ball rolling, even if part of the system fails
for some reason.
As I started this with, this may be a local situation, and YMMV
depending on the activity levels of local packet vs APRS.
73
Randy Allen, KAĜAZS
EC, Montgomery CO Ohio
OH Dist. 3 ARES Web Page:
http://www.qsl.net/ohd3ares/
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Subject: WinAPRS program error message
From: "Jacob Tennant" <k8jwt@ntelos.net>
Date: Sat, 3 May 2003 18:47:39 -0400
X-Message-Number: 20
I have been seeing this message the last few times when I run WinAPRS 2.5.1
on internet only.
"Insufficient Pointer Space, please inform authors(NewPtrClear)"
This appears as a dialogue box.
Jacob Tennant K8JWT
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Subject: Sheep In Space... And a Lyris configuration RANT
From: Gerry Creager N5JXS <gerry.creager@tamu.edu>
Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 18:00:35 -0500
X-Message-Number: 22
<RANT>
Once again, Lyris refued a post because of "too much" quoted material.
Hence, I've chopped a fair bit of *RELEVANT INFORMATION* to keep Lyris
happy.
</RANT>
I'm aware of one or 2 offshore animal trackers utilizing GPS. Using the
ranging capabilities of INMARSAT and transient aperture access has been
understaken for a number of years: Whales, seals, sea lions all have
been "tracked" by tagging with a satellite-capable transmitter that
activates when it's not submerged.
And, I agree: This is something that can be a pretty exciting thing for
a kid, but it's got to be presented as a neat, gee-whiz thing, in and on
their terms. That's something we saw with SAREX: Some of the SAREX
schools had the module and contact time as a "regular" subject with less
than stellar enthusiasm on the part of the teachers and/or hams... if
they succeeded in getting to the point where they could make the
contact, the kids were perfunctory and not spontaneous. Others made it
FUN! and the kids similarly responded.
Specfically, though, the NPR piece and the much older GPS World piece on
the Irish sheep, and the Cows In Space reference, dealt with
APRS-enabled, or APRS-like tracking of animals one normally wouldn't
think of tracking, using GPS technology.
I've consulted on a project to track and collect volcalizations of
elephants in Asia, and to track whales by their underwater
vocalizations, using non-moored, long-duration sonobouys in the Gulf
Stream. Lots of interesting things out there.
73, gerry
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