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Subject: wide?
From: John Kraus <flyfisher452@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 21:31:27 -0400
X-Message-Number: 34
My question is do we still need the generic WIDE? I suspect that most
trackers are now capable of
WIDEn-N so with relay as a generic and the N-N for TRACE and WIDE why not
do away with WIDE altogether?
Mobiles run RELAY,WIDEn-N
Home stations run either DIGICALL,WIDEn-N or just WIDEn-N the first being
(potentially) more directional.
What I would like to see is a single generic that works from every station
and then true smart digis that can take a digicall from anywhere in the
path and fulfill the senders desire.
RELAY,INET
Meaning: YO! any station get me to the internet. (The smart digi KNOWS
the best path and uses it)
RELAY,WIDE2-2
Meaning: YO! any station get me to the digi. Hey digi send me out 2 hops
in any direction.
RELAY,TRACE3-3
Meaning: YO! any station get me to the digi. Digi tell me how you did it.
It gets really neat when we can use
RELAY,WIDE2-2,INET
Meaning: YO! any station get me to the digi. Hey any digi send me out 2
hops in any direction. BUT if a smart digi hears me I just wanna get to the
Internet. The smart digi substitutes a path direct to the IGATE.
Then add smart RELAYS and we can really cook.
And for those in areas with no high relay capable digis use Digi_Ned and
set up a low smart relay.
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Subject: Re: wide?
From: tvsjr <tvsjr@sprynet.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 20:45:28 -0500
X-Message-Number: 35
Although this is probably another one of those "academic discussions" ...
You need some way to say "YO! Any station get me to the digi! Hey digi,
send me out N hops, AND find some way to get me to the Internet."
I would venture that most of the mobile trackers not only want to go out
via the Internet, but also want N hops of RF coverage...
73
Terry/N5RSE
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Subject: Re: Recommendations
From: "Cap Pennell" <cap@cruzio.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 19:20:27 -0700
X-Message-Number: 36
Jim WA6OFT wrote:
>There be a few in AZ that do "SAR" and only SAR and do not do
>anything but
>that! You never see them they never make a squeak
>....cause the idea of having to know where the digi's are is not worth a
>hill of beans or even a cup of coffee in their applications.
Those digis then would not be called WIDEn-N. They must be the equivalent
of a RELAY ONLY digi. Once, most Home stations were RELAY ONLY and high
digis were WIDE ONLY or RELAY-WIDE. Then we got some PacComm TRACE digis
which did all of the above and more. We've mostly WIDEn-N (all of the
above) around here now though.
73, Cap KE6AFE
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Subject: Re: wide?
From: "Wes Johnston" <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 23:28:09 -0400
X-Message-Number: 37
I think digined does this exact thing with "preemptive" digipeating. You
can say something like .... RELAY,WIDE2-2,IGATE, and digi-ned will look
ahead and see IGATE at the end, redo the path for you on the fly and
"wham-o" out comes the packet with the local path to the nearest igate.
This is the ideal situation b/c it allows a very good chance of getting to
an igate just with the WIDE2-2, and even better if you happen to be in range
of a digi-ned digipeater.
Wes
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