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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Friday, April 04, 2003.
1. PK-900 Manual on Adobe?
2. Re: PK-900 Manual on Adobe?
3. Help D700 with deaf RX on A side !
4. Streets & Trips
5. Map making advice needed
6. RE: Map making advice needed
7. Re: Streets & Trips
8. APRS and tactical callsigns
9. Re: APRS and tactical callsigns
10. RE: APRS and tactical callsigns
11. RE: APRS and tactical callsigns
12. RE: APRS and tactical callsigns
13. Re: Baker to Vegas 2003 Tracking Page "Released"
14. Re: PK-900 Manual on Adobe?
15. RE: APRS and tactical callsigns
16. RE: APRS and tactical callsigns
17. HSP cable use questions
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Subject: PK-900 Manual on Adobe?
From: "Matthew Stennett" <wa4tkg@iwon.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 01:57:14 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 1
Does anyone have any idea if I can
find a manual for the PK-900
on Adobe?
(already looked on "Timewave")
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Subject: Re: PK-900 Manual on Adobe?
From: Ken Collins <g4fip@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 08:19:09 +0100
X-Message-Number: 2
In article <LYR26201-127422-2003.04.04-01.47.54--g4fip#btinternet.com@li
sts.tapr.org>, Matthew Stennett <wa4tkg@iwon.com> writes
>Does anyone have any idea if I can
>find a manual for the PK-900
>on Adobe?
>(already looked on "Timewave")
I only have a dial-up connection so I didn't check it out fully but
there appears to be one available from the following page:-
http://www.timewave.com/PK900PSKUPGAnn.html
--
Ken Collins - G4FIP
E-mail:- g4fip@btinternet.com
http://www.btinternet.com/~g4fip
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Subject: Help D700 with deaf RX on A side !
From: Tony Hunt <wavetel@iname.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 17:04:14 +0930
X-Message-Number: 3
I wonder if anybody has any experience with D700's going deaf on both UHF
and VHF on just the A side ??
Thats what my D700 had done.. It seems to have rectified itself now somehow
but I am unsure about just what happened or why.. The TX was still fine on
the A side and both TX and RX on UHF/VHF were fine on the B side.. Just the
RX on the A side went extremely deaf.. It would only recieve local stations
as in next door..
Any experiences anybody.. Its fixed itself now conveiniently but it makes me
very suspicious..
Tony Hunt VK5AH
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Subject: Streets & Trips
From: Rodney Padmore <judyrod.padmore@ns.sympatico.ca>
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 13:16:59 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4
Would someone please tell me how, or where I can find out how, to
integrate this map software into UI-View, Tnx es 73 de Rod, VE1BSK.
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Subject: Map making advice needed
From: cdapples <cdapples@cablemt.net>
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 10:24:06 -0700
X-Message-Number: 5
Hi All,
I have been trying my hand at making some 3-D maps of the county
roads in my area but am having difficulties with accuracy. The problem
is that I am using an old Magellan Meridian 200 XL gps. It is only
accurate to +/- 300 meters. I would like to get accuracy to within 1
meter if possible. Is there a newer gps unit available with the
necessary output ( for input to APRS) for both lat/ lon and altitude.
Any suggestions on make and model?
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Chris / KF7KN
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Subject: RE: Map making advice needed
From: "Sadowski, Allan" <allan.sadowski@ncshp.org>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 13:29:49 -0500
X-Message-Number: 6
+/- 1 meter is going to be tough... especially in the Z (vertical)
axis.. what you are asking for is near survey quality GPS accuracy.
The best I've seen for non-survey quality... is the Garmin units with
WAAS (wide area augmentation system)... Mine seem to be within +/- 3
meters pretty well all the time that I have a WAAS satellite in view...
WAAS satellites are geosynchronous satellites augmenting the lower
orbiting normal GPS constellation. I'm not sure of the coverate for the
test WAAS satellites... but being Geosynchronous... it's going to be a
signal from a SE, S, or SW direction...
A year ago I heard there were two test satellites (it's actually a
payload on another satellite I think I seem to recall)...
If you have to have +/- one meter... maybe Gerry can chime in here and
make a recommendation... with his background and real world
experience...he's a better person to answer this one...
Maybe between a surveyed GPS and a WAAS enabled GPS input to a logging
program... and some post processing.... you can achieve +/- 1 meter...
Good luck
ALOHA
AH6LS
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Subject: Re: Streets & Trips
From: "Laurie - g6isy" <g6isy@dsl.pipex.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 19:56:31 +0100
X-Message-Number: 7
Rodney Padmore wrote:
>Would someone please tell me how, or where I can find out how, to
>integrate this map software into UI-View, Tnx es 73 de Rod, VE1BSK.
>
Take a look at ui-route :
http://website.lineone.net/~apritch/uadd.htm
--
73 Laurie - G6ISY
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Subject: APRS and tactical callsigns
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 19:46:16 -0000
X-Message-Number: 8
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but APRS still follows the same rules as
voice modes for using tactical callsigns; i.e. you can use a tactical call,
but you've still got to provide a real callsign at the required intervals,
right? For example, I see the Black Mountain digi showing up as BLACK, but
with the callsign KB7ZVA in the comment text. That's cool, but I'm also
seeing stations like '174T' and '007TS' coming in on 144.39. Checking the
packet history in findu, I don't see anything besides $GPGGA messages. What
gives? Are these unlicensed, misconfigured, or just stupid?
Scott, N1VG
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Subject: Re: APRS and tactical callsigns
From: "Steve Dimse" <k4hg@tapr.org>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 20:10:42 +0000
X-Message-Number: 9
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 19:46:16 -0000 , Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI wrote
>Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but APRS still follows
>the same rules as voice modes for using tactical
>callsigns; i.e. you can use a tactical call, but you've
>still got to provide a real callsign at the required
>intervals, right? For example, I see the Black Mountain
>digi showing up as BLACK, but with the callsign KB7ZVA
>in the comment text. That's cool, but I'm also seeing
>stations like '174T' and '007TS' coming in on 144.39.
>Checking the packet history in findu, I don't see
>anything besides $GPGGA messages. What gives? Are
>these unlicensed, misconfigured, or just stupid?
Gee, is it time for the annual Baker-to-Vegas tactical callsign argument
already? My, how time flies ;-) Better get things rolling...
You cannot use the APRS IS to determine if a tracker is IDing. There is no
FCC requirement that the ID packets have the same path. B2V uses no digis
in the FCC required ID packets, thereby reducing the load on their digis.
This is legal under the rules. If you want to find out if they are really
being transmitted, you will just need to go there. I'm sure they could use
more volunteers ;-)
Steve K4HG
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Subject: RE: APRS and tactical callsigns
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 20:20:04 -0000
X-Message-Number: 10
My question is, ARE there ID packets being sent? I've seen three joggers, a
truck, and an ambulance transmitting with WIDE4 paths. If they're operating
legally, that's great, it just seems strange to me that the rules would
allow for carrying data far beyond the range they're IDing in. Kinda like
getting on HF at 200 watts to talk, and dropping to 5 watts every time
you've got to ID. Worse, really, since you're digipeating off numerous
sites that can't hear you ID.
Anyway, as long as it's legal, fine. Who am I to question the great and
all-knowing Commission? =]
Looks like it's time to get the Nomex on again...
Scott, N1VG
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Subject: RE: APRS and tactical callsigns
From: "Ronald Reams" <wa4mjf@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 15:38:16 -0500
X-Message-Number: 11
My stations (GATE and APRSDat) still dual ID. I think that was dumb
deregulation on the FCC's part, just like no longer requirin' a well
regulated PS beloww 144 MHZ, but that's another story. However, if the
stations are just usin' CW ID, instead of dual ID, you'd never see it.
73 de Ronnie
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