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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Monday, March 24, 2003.
1. Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
2. Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
3. Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
4. Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
5. ADMIN: Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
6. Kantronics KPC3+ and GPS Question...
7. Re: Kantronics KPC3+ and GPS Question...
8. Re: Kantronics KPC3+ and GPS Question...
9. Radiation monitoring and APRS
10. APRS/SA & GMRS/FRS
11. Re: KD5STN-1>EMERGENCY
12. Re: KD5STN-1>EMERGENCY
13. Re: APRS/SA & GMRS/FRS
14. Re: Radiation monitoring and APRS
15. Re: Radio Shack WX Station & APRS?
16. Re: APRS/SA & GMRS/FRS
17. Re: Radiation monitoring and APRS
18. RE: Radiation monitoring and APRS
19. RE: Radiation monitoring and APRS
20. Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
21. Re: Radio Shack WX Station & APRS?
22. Re: Radio Shack WX Station & APRS?
23. Re: Radio Shack WX Station & APRS?
24. Re: Radio Shack WX Station & APRS?
25. AX.25, HDLC, KISS, and bit stuffing
26. Re: Radio Shack WX Station & APRS?
27. Re: Radiation monitoring and APRS
28. Re: Radiation monitoring and APRS
29. Re: AX.25, HDLC, KISS, and bit stuffing
30. Re: AX.25, HDLC, KISS, and bit stuffing
<LYR30523-125732-2003.03.24-18.43.04--kb2scs#optonline.net@lists.tapr.org>
31. Re: Radiation monitoring and APRS
32. OT - Repeaters accessable from Disney World Parks
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Subject: Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
From: "Doug Younker" <dougy@ruraltel.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 02:57:33 -0600
X-Message-Number: 1
Don't get too excited there Ronnie. I don't know for what reason(s) you
desire to swear out warrants but, in the in the context of this thread the
Federal legislation wouldn't allow, enforcement by local law enforcement
near as I can tell. Locally I get the impression that the officers would
rather spend their time on things as closing down meth operations, a growing
problem in rural areas. Beyond that in the past some Skywarn volunteer
groups used class D Citizens Band for communication.--73
Doug, N0LKK
dougy@ruraltel.net
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Subject: Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
From: "Doug Younker" <dougy@ruraltel.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 03:22:50 -0600
X-Message-Number: 2
Ronnie, what you are describing the proposed NC law goes beyond the scope
of the Federal legislation passage may result in a date in the court room.
The Federal legislation was/is limited to matters of RFI caused by the use
of illegal equipment.Oh yea they all don't deserve the reputation some have
earned. I wouldn't want the entire amateur community have a reputation
based on myself and you Ronnie or any other individual/group AR.--73
Doug, N0LKK
dougy@ruraltel.net
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Subject: Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
From: "Ronald Reams" <wa4mjf@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:01:31 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3
The law allows state and local governments to enact what is
known as enablin' legisslation. This basicly adopts the
Federal Law and prohibits the illeagal operation of Part 95
equipment. Once the state/local law is passed then the
violations are both a federal and state offense. So like
bank robbery, you can be prosecuted by both, without
violatin' the double jepordy clause. However, I think the
idea is to get the Feds outta the CB enforcedment business and
let the state/local handle it. Kinda like an unfunded mandate.
If'n you don't believe me check with SEN Feingold's office.
This was the whole intent of the bill that he intorduced.
73 de Ronnie
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Subject: Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
From: "Ronald Reams" <wa4mjf@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:09:41 -0500
X-Message-Number: 4
That's right, and the ones I got on my list are the ones that ride by the
house with those mobile antennas made of copper pipe and wipe out TVs ham
radio and eveything else with their babble. I was not a law man for 25
years, without some understandin' of the law. However, bein' retired, I
can't take direct action anymore.
Many is the RF amp I seized from CB'ers. The did not know it was prima
facia violation just to have it in line betwee RT and antenna. A little
known fact is that state and local LEOs can enforce Federal Law. Most don't
because you gotta go to a Federal Magistrate and their procedures are
different.
Asst US Attorney always, declined prosecution, but one more amp off the
street. I would send then to our EIC (W4JJ SK) and he would have photo
ops for the press smashin' them with a sledge hammer in the parkin' lot of
his office.
73 de Ronnie
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Subject: ADMIN: Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
From: "stanzepa@earthlink.net" <stanzepa@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:25:44 -0500
X-Message-Number: 5
Please take this off-topic legal discussion off the SIG.
Thank-you,
Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU, APRSSIG administrator
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Subject: Kantronics KPC3+ and GPS Question...
From: "Rick Seeders" <rseeders@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 9:0:15
X-Message-Number: 6
Hello,
I am a newcommer to the APRS World and I am confused about the baud
setting. Everything I have read tells me that I should set the baud to
1200, however the gps standard is 4800. I am using an Garmin E-Trex (yes,
bottom of the line) and I have the desire to dedicate my 2-meter Yaesu
FT-1500M to a mobile station and I am really puzzled on how best to do
this. Can anyone offer a simple explination?
KG4PNL
Rick Seeders
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Subject: Re: Kantronics KPC3+ and GPS Question...
From: Robbie <mwrobertson@attbi.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:07:51 -0600
X-Message-Number: 7
Yes Rick, that is correct, but you're confusion is the two are not the
same. 1200 baud is for the output on the air, and the 4800 is from the
GPS into the tnc...
Robbie, wa9inf
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Subject: Re: Kantronics KPC3+ and GPS Question...
From: radio_q@juno.com
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:20:40 -0700
X-Message-Number: 8
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 9:0:15 "Rick Seeders" <rseeders@yahoo.com> writes:
>I am a newcommer to the APRS World and I am confused about the baud
>setting. Everything I have read tells me that I should set the baud
>to 1200, however the gps standard is 4800.
Hi Rick
The 1200 baud rate is the speed at which the information is sent on the
RF side of your system. It's the rate the Packet data is sent at.
4800 Baud is the rate that the GPS sends it NEMA information to the TNC for
processing. I believe it is specified by the NEMA protocol, but it's a bit
immaterial as often times it's the only option you will find on the GPS
when you are looking at the GPS setup menu.
You can communicate with your TNC to the computer at a baud rate of your
choosing. I often times use 4800 for that just to keep my terminal program
set at the same rate I use for the GPS for my own convenience. Many set
it at 9600 as a default of their own system, i.e., the Kenwood D7/D700
series has 9600 baud at the default to communicate on their serial port.
Hope this helps.
Jim
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Subject: Radiation monitoring and APRS
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:12:36 -0000
X-Message-Number: 9
Ok, I can't remember if I've brought this up before, I know I was pondering
it awhile back, but someone's comment on citizen weather stations being
important for tracking air release brought it to mind again. Has anyone
ever set up an APRS station with a Geiger counter? Besides the question of
where to put it in a message, I see three issues that would need to be
addressed to get useful data:
- Different detectors have different levels of sensitivity to different
types of radiation (alpha/beta/gamma/neutron). How do you communicate that?
Should the report include information on the detector type?
- What units to use? i.e., counts, Roentgens, Rads, Rems, Grays, Sieverts,
and so on. Roentgens would make the most sense to me, since it's generally
a direct conversion from counts/minute, and doesn't require a quality factor
like Rems.
- What time period? Counts from a GM tube are discrete events - it's not an
analog value. What period of time should the measurement be averaged over?
My personal feeling is that for simplicity it could just be
milliroentgens/hr, averaged since the last transmission. I've got an HC08
microcontroller based Geiger counter ready to go that I might just go ahead
and hook up to experiment with. It'd be kind of cool to watch changing
radiation levels in real time over the whole country during solar flares and
such.
Thoughts, anyone?
And on a completely different (somewhat off-topic) subject, what is up with
hams these days? I don't know if it's just the folks in this area, or maybe
they've all got something against me, but outside of this group I have had
very little luck contacting people through email. At least here, I can
always be sure of at least eliciting a flame from Steve or indignation from
Bob, but as for local hams I haven't been able to get ANY of them to respond
to my emails. I've emailed three different clubs and several individuals
and haven't had one response. I discovered the other day that a guy I'd
been working with on a project at work had been president of the local club
last year, and was still active, so I asked him about the club's
capabilities and activities. He'd responded to every email about the work
project, but totally ignored that one, as far as I can tell.
Is it apathy, indifference, cliquishness, or do hams just not check their
email? I know I've been out of the hobby for most of a decade, but I
remember hams as being almost universally helpful, and above all,
communicative. It's driving me nuts.
Scott, N1VG
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