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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Sunday, March 23, 2003.

1.  Re:  APRS in Japan
2. Re:  Re:  APRS in Japan
3. $12 UHF radios
4. Re:  APRS in Japan
5. APRS EMAIL Improvements!
6. Re:  APRS in Japan
7. Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
8. RE: CWxxxx named WX stations
9. Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
10. Re:  APRS
11. Why Is It? AEA/MFJ, PCSAT
12. Wx Announcements - again
13. Re: Any Idea what is causing this?
14. Re: Any Idea what is causing this?
15. Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
16. Re: $12 UHF radios
17. Call for Powerpoint Files
18. Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
19. Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
20. Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
21. Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
22. WX data parsing
23. Re: WX data parsing
24. FS:  APRS/Computer related items
25. Radio Shack WX Station & APRS?

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Subject:  Re:  APRS in Japan
From: "Matthew Stennett" <wa4tkg@iwon.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 00:50:09 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 1

Bob Bruninga wrote:

>We have to start somewhere.  THe ONLY people doing mobile HAM radio
>GPS position reporting are the 100 using NAVITRA.  We have suggested
>they switch to APRS, but remember, they cannot purchase the USA model
>of the D7A or D700A because they only are allowd a 2 MHz 2m Band

If I recall correctly, the two meter band in Japan goes from 144.-146Mhz.
The DIGITAL ALLOCATION is likely in the LOW end of the spectrum, along the
lines of North America; 144.3? the digital space is QUITE limited, and the
rest is for SIMPLEX FONE use; FM.

I don't follow whatever difference this is:

 and
>not our 4 MHz.

FWIW.
The TH-D7E and TM-D700E versions are 2MHz 2m band.

73 Laurie - G6ISY

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Subject: Re:  Re:  APRS in Japan
From: "Laurie - g6isy" <g6isy@dsl.pipex.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 09:16:04 -0000
X-Message-Number: 2

Matthew Stennett wrote:
>Bob Bruninga wrote:
>>We have to start somewhere.  THe ONLY people
>>doing mobile HAM radio
>>GPS position reporting are the 100 using
>>NAVITRA.  We have suggested
>>they switch to APRS, but remember,
>>they cannot purchase the USA model
>>of the D7A  or D700A because they only are allowd a 2 MHz 2m Band
>
>If I recall correctly, the two meter band in Japan goes
>from 144.-146Mhz.  The DIGITAL ALLOCATION is likely in the LOW
>end of the spectrum, along the lines of North America; 144.3?
>the digital space is QUITE limited, and the rest is for
>SIMPLEX FONE use; FM.
>
>
>I don't follow whatever difference this is:
>
>The TH-D7E and TM-D700E
>versions are 2MHz 2m band.

Matthew,

I'm not sure if your query was directed to me or Bob.

I was pointing out that the 2MHz wide 2m allocation in Japan is the same as
the allocation in Europe.
Hence if the Japanese are not allowed to purchase the American 144-148 'A'
versions then they would probably be allowed to get the European 144-146 'E'
models, should they wish to.


73 Laurie - G6ISY

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Subject: Re:  APRS in Japan
From: "Germino" <mgermino@inreach.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:28:44 -0800
X-Message-Number: 4

I know the Kenwood 7 and 700 are great APRS radios, but you don't need them
to play with APRS.  Is there a way to determine the percent of mobile
stations that are 7 and 700 verses other setups such as the TinyTrak?  I
don't have one of the wiz bang Kenwoods and am still having fun.

Mike
AD6AA

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Subject: APRS EMAIL Improvements!
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 08:41:29 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 5

On Sat, 22 Mar 2003, James Jefferson wrote:

>I run a similar service to the Sprouls. You can send messages to
>"KB0THN-E" with the first word in the body being the e-mail address.

The BEST thing you could do is to write a program that would let HAMS
"register" email address.  Then any EMAIL sent to their call or identifier
would use a lookup table and get the email address from there.

EXAMPLES:  Instead of sending to "EMAIL" the message is sent to:

  "E-WB4APR"  This would look up my email address and send to me
  "E-CAROL"   This would send email to my wife
  "E-JOHN"    This would send email to my son

To register these email addresses, I simply send at some time or other,
an Email to your E-MAIL engine that gives the email addresses of the
3 or 4 common emails that I use.  Because the packet ORIGINATES from
WB4APR, then your email engine knows what LIST to use.

Notice how this FREE"S UP the full 45 characters of the message for an
actual message instead of using half of it for the email address.  Most of
the EMAIL we send while mobile, or traveling is to pre-meditated
addresses!

This is how we should be doing APRS email.  I have proposed this for the
last two years or so, but no one has gotten around to it yet.

de WB4APR, Bob

Notice that if it is a call, then it uses the email for that call.  If it
is anything else, it checks for a match in the "email list" of the sender
for his personal list of frequencly used addresses.

Also, a user could REGISTER such emails over the air also by sending a
proper formatted message.  And on accepting any such additions to his
table an EMAIL is sent to the HAM verifying the changes.  This way, if
anyone is spoofing his call, he will know.  Only additions are acccepted
over the air.  The HAM's call must be registered first via EMAIL so that
it cannot be spoofed.

Bob

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Subject: Re:  APRS in Japan
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 08:48:01 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 6

On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Germino wrote:

>Is there a way to determine the percent of mobile stations that are 7
>and 700 verses other setups such as the TinyTrak?

Easy:  In APRSdos, go to the DIGIpath page:

   Hit "J APK"  (Just APK) and all kenwoods will be listed.
   Hit "J M"    (Just Mobiles) and all mobiles will be listed.

In my area, it was about 90%, I think last time I looked  ...
Bob

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Subject: Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
From: "Ronald Reams" <wa4mjf@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 09:27:46 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7

They are Citizen's Weather, probably a bunch of Class D CB'ers tryin' to be
SKYWARN stations that ARES has.

Class D CB'ers are famous for makin' up their own callsigns.   Heck C is
not even a US prefix.

73 de Ronnie

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Subject: RE: CWxxxx named WX stations
From: "Brian Webster" <radiowebst@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 10:42:57 -0500
X-Message-Number: 8

Jacob,
They are citizen weather stations. Non hams with home wx stations who signed
up to be free additional sensors for the government research project and
their 3D wx modeling work. The wx reports go to findu.com then get batch
forwarded to the government project. Here is the web site that explains the
program http://wxqa.com/

Thank you,
Brian Webster N2KGC

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Subject: Re: CWxxxx named WX stations
From: "Ronald Reams" <wa4mjf@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 10:54:56 -0500
X-Message-Number: 9

Well, maybe not, but it sure sounds like somethin' those wannabes would do!

The NC General Assembly is finally workin' on enablin' legislation to take
advange of the Feds lettin' the states regulate the Class D CB'ers.

I'm already got a list of 'um that I'm goin' to the magistrate with and
swear out warrants, as soon as the law takes effect.

73 de Ronnie


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Subject: Re:  APRS
From: "Matthew Stennett" <wa4tkg@iwon.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 11:15:41 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 10

Re:  APRS in Japan

Matthew Stennett wrote: Bob Bruninga wrote: We have to start somewhere.
THe ONLY people doing mobile HAM radio GPS position reporting a  The TH-D7E
and TM-D700E versions are 2MHz 2m band.Matthew,I'm not sure if your query
was directed to me or Bob.I was pointing out that the 2MHz wide 2m
allocation in Japan is the same as the allocation in Europe. Hence if the
Japanese are not allowed to purchase the American 144-148 'A'versions then
they would probably be allowed to get the European 144-146 'E models,
should they wish to.73 Laurie - G6ISY

O.K; Gotcha':

No the "A" models of any 1st run transceivers are not allowed for sale to
the public in Japan UNLESS: You have a DIPLOMATIC status card from an
embassy employee; of your choice....that's how I understand it works in
Akihabara.

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Subject: Why Is It? AEA/MFJ, PCSAT
From: "Matthew Stennett" <wa4tkg@iwon.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 11:43:04 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 11

I just had an excellent pass here in N FL for PCSAT. Why is it that my
PK-900, wired up the the SAME radio (FT-2600M) a 1270C runs, does NOT copy
PCSAT properly, whereas my 1270C copies it solid as a rock...I didn't make
it into PCSAT on the AEA, but as soon as I switched over to the MFJ, during
the last SECONDS of coverage into NE FL, I got into the sat.

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