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Subject: Re: Computer control of Alinco mobile
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:11:46 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7

>Just thought I'd share this with the group in case anyone's interested. I
>installed an Alinco DR-112 at my IGATE station over the weekend, and as I
>was wiring up the TNC interface I remembered that the 8-pin DIN mic
>connector has the channel up/down signals for the buttons on the mic. So
>just for the heck of it, I built a small circuit with a couple of 2N3904's
>into a DB25 connector shell and wired it to the appropriate pins on the mic
>connector along with the TNC interface.  Once I finally found a command line
>tool to manipulate parallel port bits that would compile properly on my
>Alpha, I wrote a couple of shell scripts that change memory channels and
>keep track of what channel the rig's on.  From the command line, I can enter
>'chup' or 'chdn' to QSY the rig.  When I get a chance, I'll write another
>script to go straight to a specified channel.
>
>I've almost got a shell script working that'll automatically QSY during
>PCSAT passes, but something seems to be seriously broken with how the Linux
>'at' command handles UTC.  In a nutshell, the script runs 'predict' to get
>the PCSAT pass data, grabs the start and end times using head, tail, and
>cut, converts the date format using 'date', and submits 'at' jobs for the
>start and end of the pass.  The first job sets the station up for PCSAT, and
>the second changes it back to normal IGATE operation and calls the main
>script again to find the next pass.
>
>Anyway, if anyone's interested in the details of the hardware or the
>scripts, you can email me off-list.  Yeah, it's not exactly
>earth-shattering, but it's handy - I just logged into my home machine from
>work and went to 145.825 to work PCSAT.
>
>Scott, N1VG

Neat!

But be aware that it may NOT work on all radios.  Well, it should work for
your Alinco model.

But some radios, like the Radio Shack HTX-242 (and I'm assuming some
of the ADI models) the 'up down' may NOT be a simple switch.  If I
rememeber right, in the HTX-242 mic the ONLY funtion that is 'direct'
to the main radio body is the PTT.  ALL the other functions generate
'packets' from the mic processor.  Tones generate tones on the audio
line in one mode, but in the other mode they geneate 'packets' as well.

At one point I experimented with controlling my HTX-242 over the mic
input, but ran into an issue that a few key commands could only be done
by hitting buttons on the radio face...  Oh well...  Then my 242 got
stolen.

Somewhere around here I have all my docs on how that works...

Oh, please don't think I posted this to blast your work.  I think what you
did is neat.  But I just don't want someone thinking all radios work the
same way as YOUR radio, and damaging something as a result.

Mike

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Subject: D700 remote control head.
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:45:26 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 8

Last week's thread:

I learned that the serial UART rate between the D700 control
head and the radio is at 300+ KBPS...  THus it wont go very far, but
someone has used it up to 150 feet away and it still worked...

Thats all I know.  But its a fact.
Bob

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Subject: Re: D700 remote control head.
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:49:29 -0500
X-Message-Number: 9

>Last week's thread:
> 
>I learned that the serial UART rate between the D700 control
>head and the radio is at 300+ KBPS...  THus it wont go very far, but
>someone has used it up to 150 feet away and it still worked...
> 
>Thats all I know.  But its a fact.
>Bob

You could always convert it to differential 'push-pull' and probably pump
another magnitude in distance over twisted wire.  Parts to do that are 
cheap too.

Mike

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Subject: APRS in Wyoming...
From: "Jeffrey P. Nast" <jpnast@lca.duluth.mn.us>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:33:55 -0600
X-Message-Number: 10

Hello all,

I am a volunteer leader for an organization called Royal Rangers
(http://royalrangers.ag.org/royal-rangers/index.cfm). Royal Rangers is a
Christian based version of the Boy Scouts. I will be taking a number of
14-17 year olds on a backpacking trip in the Cloud Peak Wilderness Area
of the Bighorn National Forest in North Central Wyoming
(http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/bighorn/). Our planned "expedition" is slated
for sometime in the two weeks after the 4th of July for 6 days/5 nights.

I will be acquiring a TH-D7A(G) within the next month (be prepared for
"newbie" questions...) and will be toting it and solar charger/extra
batteries on the trails. The TH-D7A(G) will be coupled to a Garmin Etrex
Summit. PCSat (if it is still working then) and ISS will be our primary
method of remote APRS communications. I hope to keep the parents at home
informed by:
    * Using findu.com to see our position (using the topo option)
    * Send short email status on our well being (blister/injury
reports...)
    * Communicate an emergency situation if necessary

Three of the young men that will be on the trail with me are licensed
Amateur Radio operators. Perhaps seeing this in action will help to
further their interest in the hobby.

Wyoming APRSers, do you have any idea if there is any local 144.39
coverage on the West side of Cloud Peak? We will be starting our trek at
Coffeen Park on the Northern perimeter and ending at West Tensleep Lake
on the Southern perimeter, utilizing the Solitude trail around the West
side of Cloud Peak.

Comments and suggestions are welcome! I am particularly interested in
finding a lightweight solar battery charger and hearing about your
experiences with them (offline?). I saw one at REI, but there has to be
more out there...

Thank you!

-Jeff Nast
KC0MKS

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Subject:  APRS in Wyoming ?
From: "Matthew Stennett" <wa4tkg@iwon.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:02:55 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 11

I understand there are quite a few HOT SPRING, Mineral Baths
out Wyoming way.  I am VERY interesteed to see them on a map.
Where they are in proximity to other places.
May go out Seattle way, and would like to DIVE INTO Hot Springs!

ROAD TRIP?!

Wyoming APRSers, do you have any idea if there is any local 144.39
coverage on the West side of Cloud Peak? We will be starting our trek at
Coffeen Park on the Northern perimeter and ending at West Tensleep Lake
on the Southern perimeter, utilizing the Solitude trail around the West
side of Cloud Peak.

Comments and suggestions are welcome! I am particularly interested in
finding a lightweight solar battery charger and hearing about your
experiences with them (offline?). I saw one at REI, but there has to be
more out there...

Thank you!

-Jeff Nast
KC0MKS

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Subject: APRS settings for 10.151?
From: "Earl S. Garber" <n3eg@teleport.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:27:37
X-Message-Number: 12

I can't seem to find the recommended settings (path, time) for 10.151 APRS. 
 Anyone here know what to use for a home station with weather?

....N3EG

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Subject: PCSAT questions
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 20:39:57 -0000
X-Message-Number: 13

Well, I finally managed to copy a few packets on 145.825 during the last
pass.  Still haven't seen any of my own packets, except for on findu, but I
got the following:

COMAND-1>N6CO: <<rr0>>:

COMAND-1>N6CO: <<rr3>>:

COMAND-1>N6CO: <<rr3>>:

Does that mean that N6CO was connected to the command channel?

Next question:  What type of omnidirectional antenna do you find works best
for PCSat?  Eggbeater, crossed dipoles, or other?  My vertical seems to be
pretty useless above 45 degrees elevation.

Thanks...

Scott, N1VG

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Subject: Re: Computer control of Alinco mobile
From: "Wes Johnston" <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:03:06 -0500
X-Message-Number: 14

Many radios play a beep when you flip thru memory channels.  Perhaps a 567
pll can decode the tone of the beep.  Many of these radios (particularly
kenwoods) play a different tone when they pass by the "0" memory slot.  This
could allow you to index your up/downs.

Wes

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Subject: Re: Computer control of Alinco mobile
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:23:18 -0000
X-Message-Number: 15

That's a thought... though I can't remember at the moment if it does that.
I know on one of my radios it does a 'beep' with every channel change, and a
'boop' when you wrap back to 1.  I don't think it'll be necessary for now -
once the state is set manually it keeps track just fine.  It's only got 15
memories, so if I get lost I can just flip through one at a time until I see
APRS traffic.

I'll have to tweak the chup/chdn scripts so they can display the frequency
from a list, too.

Scott

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