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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Tuesday, March 04, 2003.

1. Re: 222-MHz Business Band Retunes?
2. Re: Deluo line of GPS recievers
3. Deluo line of GPS recievers
4. Re: Stations.txt
5. Re: Deluo line of GPS recievers
6. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
7. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
8. Re: 222-MHz Business Band Retunes?
9. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
10. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
11. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
12. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
13. APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
14. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
15. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
16. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
17. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
18. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
19. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
20. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
21. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
22. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
23. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
24. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
25. Re: APRS Urban Legend:
26. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
27. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
28. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
29. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was  Kenwood blah blah
30. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
31. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
32. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
33. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was K	enwood blah blah
34. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
35. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
36. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
37. Re: APRS Urban Legend:
38. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
39. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
40. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
41. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
42. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
43. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
44. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
45. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
46. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
47. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
48. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
49. SAR_pursuit_APRS
50. RE: SAR_pursuit_APRS
51. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
52. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
53. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
54. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
55. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
56. Linux soundcard modem performance and refernces
57. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
58. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
59. New TMD-700 Firmware
60. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
61. Thanks for all the information! (Was round enclosure question)
62. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah
63. Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
64. Re: APRS Urban Legend: FCC firmware upgrades, was Kenwood blah blah

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Subject: Re: 222-MHz Business Band Retunes?
From: Skip Allison <skipk9sa@ameritech.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 23:00:56 -0600
X-Message-Number: 1

Motorola makes a 220 mobile (CDM1550) and portable radio (HT1250). 
Currently they are only type accepted for the commercial radio
frequencies (216-222).  They will go up to 225 with the right software
tweaks.  

http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail/0,1958,999_721_23,00.html
http://www.motorola.com/cgiss/docs/ht1250ls_catsheet.pdf
http://www.motorola.com/cgiss/docs/cdm1550LS_bro.pdf

The catalog sheets don't show it yet, but 216-222 MHz versions are
shipping now.

Skip
K9SA

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Subject: Re: Deluo line of GPS recievers
From: roger w rockwell <wb4trz@juno.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:44:49 -0600
X-Message-Number: 2

I got this from   support@deluo.com    

Dear Customer,

Please download the technical specification for our GPS units from this
link:
   http://store.deluo.com/DELUOGPS.pdf
  
On it you will find all information related to power requirements, receiver
accuracy, etc.

spec says 3.8 to 8 v

Roger

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Subject: Deluo line of GPS recievers
From: Mike Musick <mikemusick@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 23:50:45 -0600
X-Message-Number: 3

>Does the Deluo line of GPS recievers work well on 12 volts?

Yes - for probably about 30 seconds, which is just about enough time 
to unleash the magic smoke. It's spec'ed for 3.8 to 8V.

Check http://www.pocketaprs.com/gps.html for a complete discussion on 
the Deluo.

   ...mike

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Subject: Re: Stations.txt
From: "John Becker" <w0jab@big-river.net>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 00:05:58 -0600
X-Message-Number: 4

This must have been a HTML message since I did not get any text
in the message body.

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Subject: Re: Deluo line of GPS recievers
From: KC7ZRU - Tate <kc7zru@arrl.net>
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 23:34:36 -0700
X-Message-Number: 5

Mike Musick wrote:
>>Does the Deluo line of GPS recievers work well on 12 volts?
> 
> 
>Yes - for probably about 30 seconds, which is just about enough time to
>unleash the magic smoke. It's spec'ed for 3.8 to 8V.
> 
>Check http://www.pocketaprs.com/gps.html for a complete discussion on
>the Deluo.
> 
> ...mike

Yup, Mike has it right - got the answer from the guy here in town that 
uses 'em:

>Needs to be regulated, the Pocket APRS site says 3.8 to 8.0 volts.
>http://www.pocketaprs.com/gps.html

He even references the same site.

Thanks Mike!

73

-- 
         "The Dungeon" online at http://go.to/kc7zru
               Casper, WY    |    CARC Repeater
                 DN62tt      |      146.940-
                  http://www.trib.com/~carc

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Subject: Re: Kenwood redefines Warranty
From: Juergen Frank <db2fm@jfsattv.de>
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 08:06:22 +0100
X-Message-Number: 6

am 04.03.2003 5:50 Uhr schrieb Mark Fellhauer unter sparkfel@qwest.net:

>At 10:17 PM 3/3/2003, Ramon F. Kolb wrote:
> 
>>I'm not sure about your linksys, but the routers I've used (Palmrouter
>>and Netgear) provide firmware upgrades for free via the internet.
> 
>The firmware upgrades are free, but in Linksys' case it is due to FLAWS in
>their system.
> 
>And the firmware has not addressed these flaws.  That's why they have new
>versions of their hardware, specifically for the WAP11 2.2 and 2.6.  They
>are entirely different animals on the inside.
> 
>>I agree with you, upgrades that require HARDWARE changes are most of the
>>time not for free. However, buggy firmware upgrades should be free IMHO,
>>and preferably something you can do at home.
> 
>I assume that the FCC has some requirements on modern transceivers about
>what you can and can not flash on the user end.   I have an older scanner
>where I ran a little Visual Basic program with the programming cable
>attached and "Hey Presto!" the scanner had all it's previously blocked 800
>MHz channels now free and clear.
> 
>Furthermore, if you look at what's happening in the wireless networking
>field, there are so many software/firmware hacks that I'm sure it's giving
>manufacturers fits.  I wonder how many script kiddies have burned up or
>locked up their access points by installing or trying to install
>unauthorized firmware on this type hardware?   I wonder how many of them
>box up the fried unit and return it back to Best Buy, saying, "I dunno, it
>just quit working..."
> 
>If you read and comprehended the initial post the stated intention of the
>firmware upgrade was to take into account changes made by a THIRD PARTY,
>that is:  Garmin.

Garmin didn't change something, Kenwood missed to beware of the new version
of NMEA-standard. And as a manufacturer of GPS-units Garmin would be stupid
not to increase functionality gained with this standard.

Kenwood also enabled DAMA-mode (very common for German PR-digis gains better
throughput) in this new firmwareand corrected misbehaving KISS-mode (BUG).
AFAIk it's 2.0(G). I bought my D700E last year and 4 weeks later they
announced the new version and had no chance to get it for free. I would
accept costs for a hardware-upgrade but not for a few-minute-flash-load.
Waiting for the first to offer the upgrade as a file. In cicuit programming
(as I think is what will be done) is no secret...

>Kenwood has no control over Garmin, and shouldn't be picking up the bill to
>deal with changes/updates made by other manufacturers.   Why not send the
>$xx Kenwood bill to Garmin and see if they pay it?
> 
>73,
> 
>Mark
>KC7BXS

73 de Juergen

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