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Subject: Prepared presentation ?
From: Chuck Kelly <ckelly@bdcast.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 06:50:00 -0600
X-Message-Number: 7
Greetings, Braintrust !
I've gotten the chance to make a 30 - 45 minute presentation on APRS before
our local ham club here. Does anyone have a PowerPoint presentation - or
other materials they've used before for such a purpose ?
Any help would be appreciated.
73,
Chuck Kelly
W9MDO
Quincy, IL
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Subject: Re: Easy listening. Was: PCsat easy listening
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:12:11 -0500
X-Message-Number: 8
Bob Bruninga wrote:
>Or, set your APRS mobile out in the driveway to Extremely LOW
>power and set its DIGI alias to SGATE. Then, whenever your mobile hears
>PCsat fly over, it will digipeat to you on your HT inside the warmth of
>your house..
Shameless plug: Folks using the Cybikos are able to do this from day
two. (there was no gateway on day one) Just hook a Cybiko (Classic) to
your tracker box (or anything that talks KISS), start UI Gate and use a
second Cybiko running UI Messenger to roam around your house or yard.
Sometimes I put a tracker box on the patio with a moxon rectangle (made
from just #14 solid wire and some PVC) if I want to play with PCSAT. In
2001 I put my xmas tree on PCSAT that way, hoping that Santa would be
able to find it better. I think I pulled that article from my website
already.
Of course you can also hook it to the TNC on the APRS setup you have in
the shack and you get the same flexibility. Messaging, mapping etc,
without having to be at your operating position. No second APRS capable
transceiver needed. PCSAT operations everywhere.
Dunno if the TS2K has a KISS-out or else you could hook it up to that
too. Or hook the Cybiko to your D7 (make sure you add the XFLOW OFF in
the KISS setup screen) and add mapping capabilities when you use Bob's
setup.
If you run Xastir with just a soundmodem TNC, even better! Use
kissattach to create a second port (see the DIGI_NED documentation) and
hook a Cybiko running UI Gate to that. That way you add a ton of
flexibility to your setup without the need of a single TNC. Now you can
send and receive messages and have mapping capabilities without having
to be at your main setup while that one keeps humming as it always has
been doing. This used to be my favorite setup until I moved and lost my
Linux setup. I bet you can do the same using UI-View.
You can even use it for Beaconet.25, so you can see if the band opens
even when you are sitting on the couch watching tv or pulling weeds in
your yard.
Easy listening in any situation and for any APRS type application. :)
73,
--Alex KR1ST
http://www.kr1st.com
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Subject: Re: OpenTAC -
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 09:54:24 -0500
X-Message-Number: 9
Darryl Smith wrote:
>However I am rather
>concerned about the fact that the first thing I heard about this spec
>was on SlashDot and not on APRSsig or APRSspec.
Well, in all fairness, Scott has announced and discussed this new spec
on here first, as Steve also already indicated.
Using Slashdot or any other site gives you better access to a much
larger audience than this list. I can understand why Scott has chosen
this route. In fact I've started using QRZ.com myself. If I'm not
mistaken the first announcement of APRSPoint was on QRZ.com. I already
wrote the article to go on QRZ for my next release. Perhaps it's
different for client software than for specs, but I got a far better
response and much better critique from folks who don't even know the
existence of this SIG than from this SIG. After I put my article on QRZ
I was approached by a QST editor to write an article (I declined,
different story). That would have never happened if I would've kept
looking at the APRSSig as the place where it all happens. It isn't.
This SIG also seemed to be geared more toward established products
rather than new development, and sometimes new development is even being
ignored on here. Sure, there's a lot of talk... And when someone
discovers something new you get the "where did this come from"-response,
while it has been there all along. It also seems sometimes that a
product or idea needs to get approval or attention of certain "movers
and shakers" on this list before it gets recognized by others. I know it
seems like I'm complaining, but I really am not. I'm just trying to
describing as what I see are the some of the dynamics of this list which
may explain somewhat why others are looking elsewhere. Perhaps it's like
how the President expressed his feelings about the UN, maybe the APRSSIG
is loosing it's relevance.
Ok, I'll crawl back in my hole now. :)
73,
--Alex KR1ST
http://www.kr1st.com
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Subject: CYBIKO's via PCSAT...
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:25:01 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 10
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Alex wrote about linking through PCSAT.
>Shameless plug: Folks using the Cybikos are able to do this from day
>two. (there was no gateway on day one) Just hook a Cybiko (Classic) to
>your tracker box (or anything that talks KISS), start UI Gate and use a
>second Cybiko running UI Messenger to roam around your house or yard.
Was it you I saw yesterday? I was driving to get my kids from school and
saw someone using a CYBIKO show up on the front of my radio during a PCSAT
pass...?
For AMSAT-BB: A CYBIKO is a $xx kids wireless handheld game/PC that Alex
has written software making it into a wireless APRS device...
Bob, WB4APR
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Subject: Re: CYBIKO's via PCSAT...
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 10:54:01 -0500
X-Message-Number: 11
Bob Bruninga wrote:
>Was it you I saw yesterday? I was driving to get my kids from school and
>saw someone using a CYBIKO show up on the front of my radio during a PCSAT
>pass...?
I didn't try it yesterday, but you may have seen me the day before. I
just arrived home from work when I noticed that PCSAT was in view. Those
PCSAT bulletins on .39 really help. So I quickly switched to 144.825
while I was still sitting in the driveway and started beaconing my
position. However, I didn't see any packets from me coming back so I
figured I didn't make it. I forgot which path to use so I tried
different ones hoping that one packet would make it through. The radio
is just a 5 Watt HT (part of my Cybiko tracker box) with a 19" whip on
the roof.
In the past I've used the two Cybiko setup many times to get on PCSAT.
Beats sitting outside in the heat during the summer (or cold in the
winter, but we don't have that here) waiting for a pass. :)
I just realized I'm not on amsat-bb anymore. I need to correct that.
73,
--Alex KR1ST
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Subject: findu.com
From: Timothy Brown-TM <Timothy.Brown@telus.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 11:52:00 -0500
X-Message-Number: 12
I run mobile with a TM-700D with a Garmin GPS-35. When I look at my
position reports on findu.com, the following information is provided above
the three maps:
18.3 miles northwest of TORONTO, ONT
Altitude: 889 feet
Report received 16 hours 47 minutes 32 seconds ago
Raw packet:
VE3TMB-9>T3UW2V,VE3RPT*,WIDE3-2,VE3XF,qAS,n5faz:'k3S!sT>/]"7%}Tim Around the
GTA
When I look at other mobiles using an outboard TNC and winAPRS, they get
something like:
Status: 071329 listening to 147.33
Course: 167.0 Speed: 28.0
Any idea why findu.com doesn't display my course and speed? Also, why is my
status line truncated to the path whereas the mobile station running an
outboard TNC with winAPRS gets an actual label of "Status" on findu.com.
Thanks and 73,
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Subject: RE: OpenTAC -
<LYR19806-122101-2003.02.26-00.24.51- -ssbrockw#swbell.net@lists.tapr.org>
From: Miller Scott Contr 30SCS/FTI <Scott.Miller@vandenberg.af.mil>
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 18:24:21 -0000
X-Message-Number: 13
Yep, that's me. I submitted the Slashdot story to get the word out to a
larger audience and hopefully pull in a wider variety of talent. Things
have been moving kind of slow lately since I've been busy with other
commitments, but it's still moving along.
Anyone interested in joining the mailing list can do so by sending a message
to 'lists@n1vg.net' with the subject line 'subscribe spec'. Someone
mentioned the possibility of TAPR hosting the mailing list; is that still an
option? My list manager software is very limited and doesn't have such
niceties as a web-accessible archive.
BTW, does anyone know who coordinates assignment of AX.25 PIDs these days?
Scott, N1VG
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