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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Sunday, February 23, 2003.

1. RE: FYI Delorm Street Atlas
2. Re: AVR debugger/disassembler/emulator recommendation
3. RE: FYI Delorm Street Atlas
4. Re: PRSG  WAS: Rino and Tiny Trak
5. Re: Run Street Atlas without CD
6. Re: Run Street Atlas without CD
7. Fw: SA-9
8. Re: PRSG  WAS: Rino and Tiny Trak
9. Re: RDF Question
10. Re: OT:  Are weather alerts gone?
11. new web site
12. FRS in amusement parks
13. Re: OT:  Are weather alerts gone?
14. Re: Delorm Street Atlas APRS Issues
15. Need PalmAPRS map for Columbus,GA
16. Re: Fw: SA-9

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Subject: RE: FYI Delorm Street Atlas
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:48:31 EST
X-Message-Number: 1

Again, it is totally unneccesary complexity.  

The Extractor utility provided with SA will allow you to copy part or all of 
the data CD to a subdirectory located under the one the program is installed 
in.  Extractor presents an Explorer-like tree with the root being the US with 
a "directory" for each state and "subdirectories" for each county, allowing 
you to extract only part of the data if you have limited hard disk space 
(such as on a laptop).   Extractor is installed ONLY if you choose a "Custom" 
install at the time of initial setup instead of the "Default" install.        
This refers only to the "Classic" Street Atlas.  

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Subject: Re: AVR debugger/disassembler/emulator recommendation
From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" <archer@eskimo.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 01:48:59 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 2

On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Alex wrote:

>I have no experience with the AVR processor family, so I have no clue
>which software would be good to use to disassemble/debug/emulate for
>this processor family. Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>Freebies preferred since I'm in an exploratory phase right now and just
>want to look at a dump I have.

	http://www.avrfreaks.net

avr-gcc for Windows.  I use avr-gcc for Linux.  Same basic stuff.

Curt, WE7U.				archer@eskimo.com
http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
  Lotto:  A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown
Windows:  Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U.
The world DOES revolve around me:  I picked the coordinate system!"

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Subject: RE: FYI Delorm Street Atlas
From: "Joel Black" <w4jbb@charter.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 06:42:47 -0600
X-Message-Number: 3

SA2003 has on it's second CD a "setup.exe" file.  Just run that file and you
will have all the maps on your local hard drive.  There is one caveat I can
think of - you cannot select the states as you could with the SA extractor
that came with earlier versions.  BTW, using the extractor keeps you from
having to do a lot of extra work.

My company bought SA2003+.  I use it for locating "draw objects."  The
previous versions of SA did not have this capability.  The new interface is
clunky at best and there don't appear to be many (if any) shortcut keys
(i.e. CTRL+L to locate something by lat/long).  It also doesn't interface
with APRS+, but I have found UI-View32 and PMAP5.0 and use that combination
for APRS now.

73,

Joel B. Black, W4JBB
w4jbb@charter.net

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Subject: Re: PRSG  WAS: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: "Bob D." <n2iph@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:14:26 -0500
X-Message-Number: 4

Where did I say anything about believing this or what made you think I
wrote it?
I just copied the paragraph from the web site and gave the URL for those
who may not have found it.

Didn't the
  ----snip----
  bla, bla, bla
  ---snip---
make it clear that the text was copied from somewhere?

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Subject: Re: Run Street Atlas without CD
From: Mark Zimmerman <w1bmw@mac.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:41:31 -0500
X-Message-Number: 5

Why not just use the extraction utility that comes on the CD? One 
everything is in stalled, the extractor will let you specify all or 
part of it's database to reside on the hard drive...nice way to save 
space if you're only interested in a specific area.

73,
/zim W1BMW

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Subject: Re: Run Street Atlas without CD
From: "Joe Della Barba" <joe@dellabarba.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 09:02:29 -0500
X-Message-Number: 6

Now you guys tell me! 
73
Joe N3HGB
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Zimmerman" <w1bmw@mac.com>
To: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: [aprssig] Re: Run Street Atlas without CD

>Why not just use the extraction utility that comes on the CD? One
>everything is in stalled, the extractor will let you specify all or
>part of it's database to reside on the hard drive...nice way to save
>space if you're only interested in a specific area.
> 
>73,
>/zim W1BMW

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Subject: Fw: SA-9
From: "H. N. Vordenbaum" <k5hv@beecreek.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 09:25:19 -0600
X-Message-Number: 7

Since this didn't get any responses on APRSPLUS, let me try here.......

----- Original Message -----
From: "H. N. Vordenbaum" <k5hv@beecreek.net>
To: <aprsplus@k8sn.org>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:40 AM
Subject: SA-9

A couple of weeks ago SA-9 started doing something odd, and I wonder if
there is some hook from APRS+ (V4.0.02 R GPS206) that might account for it.
When the map is recentered with the cursor a small rectangular area of map
where the cursor was is put at the new cursor position.  Moving with the
arrow keys doesn't change the view in the rectangular area, but moving with
the cursor does.  This is happening whether SA+ is running or not or whether
or not SA9 was started by itself.  I've tried un-installing and
re-installing SA9 without getting rid of the problem.
73, Harv

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Subject: Re: PRSG  WAS: Rino and Tiny Trak
From:     Jeff King <jeff@aerodata.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:49:38 -0500
X-Message-Number: 8

What I posted was for the benefit of the SIG. I never believed you wrote it,
you just blindly copied something you read to the SIG without verifying its
facts. I'm sure I could find many text quotations claiming the Holocaust was
not real... so in your eye's I should be able to copy those to the SIG
without any objection/corrections from its members?

P.S.
PRSG is NOT a friend of APRS, at least when it comes to public service of it.
It was hoped by many, including I believe WB4APR, that MURS might compliment
amateur radio use of APRS in special events. MURS is presently the only
service that allows unlicensed data transmissions in a relatively long range
VHF band... ideal to toss onto public service assets. So far, PRSG has
managed to get the FCC to ban digipeaters on MURS and is now working on
banning interconnection to the internet. They are no friend of the digital
operator and to imply otherwise, even in quoting them, is a dis-service to
all those interested in such activities. 

--
Jeff King, jeff@aerodata.net on 2/23/2003

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Subject: Re: RDF Question
From: Ernie <ag8y@voyager.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:12:47 -0500
X-Message-Number: 9

Hi Peter,

I participate in monthly hunts here in the Cincinnati area. I use HT
whips with BNC connectors. I selected whips from a large batch using a
MFJ swr meter. I selected 4 that were similar in resonate frequency.
If they are not close, you can have problems as others have indicated.
My tracking is very good all the way around the display. No problem.

This works very well. The advantage for me is that I run both the 
doppler and a 3 element yagi at the same time. Using the rubber 
duckies keeps them out of the way of the beam. I also noticed an
improvement using the duckies over a quarter wave whip when doing
DF on horizontal polarized signals. The guys around here love to
switch between vertical and horizontal. At times when I am just
hunting jammers, I use quarter wave whips because they do hear
a bit better. 

Take a look at my setup on my web page. I've got pics of my old
van there. The new van uses a mount through a sun roof. Now I
have less holes in the new van....

http://home.cinci.rr.com/w8eh/fox.html

The mounts on the roof are standard motorola thread. There is an
adapter that screws on the motorola thread and give a UHF female
connection. Then I used a BNC female to UHF male adapter. The
duckies are BNC. They are taped up in the picture.

http://home.cinci.rr.com/w8eh/fox/doppant.jpg

73 Ernie W8EH

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Subject: Re: OT:  Are weather alerts gone?
From: "Kendall Thomas" <ktkc5ffq@taylortel.net>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:28:27 -0600
X-Message-Number: 10

I have used StormNow for years and they have been excellent
for all types of weather alerts and more.

I have a link on my page, just click on the logo located about
3/4 down the page and it will take you directly to there website: 
www.qsl.net/kc5ffq/

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