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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Saturday, February 22, 2003.
1. RDF Question
2. Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
3. Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
4. Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
5. Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
6. Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
7. Recognition of downlink to release uplink
8. Re: Recognition of downlink to release uplink
9. PRSG WAS: Rino and Tiny Trak
10. Phoenix/Mesa Amateur Radio Club Meetings?
11. Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
12. Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
13. Re: RDF Question
14. FYI Delorm Street Atlas
15. RE: RDF Question
16. Re: PRSG WAS: Rino and Tiny Trak
17. Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
18. OT: Are weather alerts gone?
19. OT: Are weather alerts gone?
20. Re: FYI Delorm Street Atlas
21. RE: FYI Delorm Street Atlas
22. Re: OT: Are weather alerts gone?
23. RE: FYI Delorm Street Atlas
24. AVR debugger/disassembler/emulator recommendation
25. Updated aprsserve and aprsextra files
26. PCSAT PASS
27. Would the person that I sold the 486 to mail me again?
28. RE: FYI Delorm Street Atlas
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Subject: RDF Question
From: "Peter \"Dakota\" Summerhawk" <wymarine@toughguy.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 22:01:25 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1
I was thinking of using HT whips for the array in my setup for RDF on the
Doppler setup on my roof of the car. Does anyone have any experience with
this? Does it work or is it better to stick with the non HT type whip (eg:
mobile type antennas) If someone can give me some information?
Thanks
Peter "Dakota" Summerhawk
APRS/SSTV/VHF/UHF
ARES/RACES/SKYWARN
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Subject: Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: "Darryl Smith" <Darryl@radio-active.net.au>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:28:25 +1100
X-Message-Number: 2
I don't have a RINO, and there is no easy or legal way for me to get
one... But I think I know how to get positions out of the RINO system. I
suspect that the positions of the other stations are loaded into the GPS
as waypoints, and could be downloaded...
Can anyone confirm that the RINO positions are just waypoints on the
GPS...
Darryl
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Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International]
Darryl@radio-active.net.au | www.radio-active.net.au
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Subject: Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: Jeff King <jeff@aerodata.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:36:04 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:49:44 -0500, Alex wrote:
>Jeff King wrote:
>>FYI, MURS *does* allow automatic posits (unless PRSG gets its way)
>
>Do we have a name yet that goes with PRSG?
Corwin Moore, often referred to as the 'Anti-Christ of MURS'. He is a ham
here in Ann Arbor. Seems to hates any form of digital, he has already
succeeded in banning digipeaters on MURS and his next campaign is to ban any
interconnect to the internet.
He is a one man PAC, there is no way to join PRSG and he appears to have the
ears of the FCC.
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Subject: Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: Jeff King <jeff@aerodata.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:54:50 -0500
X-Message-Number: 4
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003 02:49:44 -0500, Alex wrote:
>Jeff King wrote:
>>
>>Technically, the posits have to be generated manually on FRS/GMRS, i.e. a
>>button push. The TinyTrak would violate this rule, so I don't think there is
>>any advantage to APRS here.
>
>Actually that is about the change. See the document I posted on here
>before:
>
>http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-03-26A1.pdf
I don't see this Alex. Nothing about scheduled automatic transmissions. Just
polling, and the tinitrak doesn't do this.
Other thing is, not clear to me you can hook a external data device to the
unit.
>In particular section C, page 10, "Initiation of Transmission of
>Location Information" is of interest. Garmin changed it's position and
>opted for including language that makes it less specific on how to
>initiate the transmission of position information. Polling is onother
>option. Now polling can mean a lot of things.
The poll has to be manually activated.
Still, the rules are useful. Nice to see Stewart Teaze got some recognition
from the FCC.
-Jeff
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Subject: Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: Jeff King <jeff@aerodata.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:55:38 -0500
X-Message-Number: 5
FRS is under part 95, not part 15. Same idea however.
--
Jeff King, jeff@aerodata.net on 02/22/2003
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Subject: Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: Jeff King <jeff@aerodata.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 00:57:03 -0500
X-Message-Number: 6
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:28:25 +1100, Darryl Smith wrote:
>I don't have a RINO, and there is no easy or legal way for me to get
>one... But I think I know how to get positions out of the RINO system. I
>suspect that the positions of the other stations are loaded into the GPS
>as waypoints, and could be downloaded...
>
>Can anyone confirm that the RINO positions are just waypoints on the
>GPS...
Your right.
That is exactly what Brad Wiseman, the OEM manager from Garmin, told me a few
months ago. Unfortunately, he wouldn't give me the over the air protocol
;-(
-Jeff
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Subject: Recognition of downlink to release uplink
From: Wolf Hoeller <wolf.hoeller@gmx.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:49:07 +0100
X-Message-Number: 7
Hi group!
A time ago someone posted a link to a page which describes a so
called '...pc-sat robot ....' ! I haven't this link anymore - I
believe it is from downunder...!?
Perhaps other aprs-user on the list have realized the following:
the uplink (to pcsat or iss.....) is only than possible, when the
station hears one of the call in the downlink datastream. It
should work on a single-chip-microprocessor like a basicstamp or
an atmel-avr.
--
73 de Wolf, oe7ftj
ax25-mail: oe7ftj@oe7xlr.#oe7.aut.eu
email: oe7ftj(at)gmx.at
Have a look where I am:
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?oe7ftj%2A
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Subject: Re: Recognition of downlink to release uplink
From: Andrew Rich <andrew.rich@bigpond.com>
Date: 22 Feb 2003 21:42:49 +1000
X-Message-Number: 8
www.tech-software.net
Andrew vk4tec
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Subject: PRSG WAS: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: "Bob D." <n2iph@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 06:57:48 -0500
X-Message-Number: 9
Here's the web site of the Personal Radio Steering Group.
http://www.provide.net/~prsg/
---snip---
The PRSG is a private, non-profit corporation funded primarily by
subscriptions, literature sales, and private contributions. Members of
the PRSG Board of Directors are active nationally in a variety of
personal-radio activities. We collectively strive to promote the
continuing personal use of the GMRS, and to protect this service from
the threat of encroachment and usurpation by commercial and industrial
interests. We also encourage the evolution of this service to more
completely respond to the legitimate needs of citizens in our
contemporary, highly mobile society to communicate with each other in
order to coordinate their mutual activities.
---snip---
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Subject: Phoenix/Mesa Amateur Radio Club Meetings?
From: "Ev Tupis (W2EV)" <w2ev@arrl.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 08:24:39 -0500
X-Message-Number: 10
I'll be in Mesa from March 8 - 11 on business. Any ham radio clubs meeting
then? I _may_ actually have an evening or two to engage in some leisurly
activity. :o)
Ev, W2EV
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Subject: Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: "Ronald Reams" <wa4mjf@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 09:35:44 -0500
X-Message-Number: 11
That is cxorrect, Jeff.
It maybe the Class E CB they've been tryin' to get for many moons. When
Class E was first proposed by Tom Knietal (sp) he wanted 1 1/4 meters for
it. Tom was ham , too!
However, I did not say it was Part 15. Please note
the ", nor" seperatin' the two.
73 de Ronnie
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Subject: Re: Rino and Tiny Trak
From: Alex <kr1st@amsat.org>
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 00:38:57 -0500
X-Message-Number: 12
Jeff King wrote:
>He is a one man PAC, there is no way to join PRSG and he appears to have
>the ears of the FCC.
What this means is that we really need to pay attention and get of our
butt when these issues arise at the FCC so that not some individual, who
is totally willing to shoot himself in the foot, is going to help change
a service in a way that's not advantageous to the general public (and
us!) at all. I don't think the FCC got a well balanced view on this
issue, but that's just my opinion and my own (or our..depends on how you
look at it) fault.
73,
--Alex KR1ST
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