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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Friday, February 14, 2003.
1. RE: APRS and ArcView?
2. Re: mobile APRS - beyond a tracker
3. SAR and APRS
4. RE: SAR and APRS
5. Re: SAR and APRS
6. Re: SAR and APRS
7. RE: SAR and APRS
8. Re: SAR and APRS
9. RE: APRS and ArcView?
10. RE: SAR and APRS
11. Re: mobile APRS - beyond a tracker
12. Re: mobile APRS - beyond a tracker
13. Re: mobile APRS - beyond a tracker
14. RE: SAR and APRS
15. RE: SAR and APRS
16. RE: SAR and APRS
17. PCSAT Pass Soon?
18. ID-5001 Weather station + WinAPRS bugs?
19. PERL ping script
20. PCSAT BBS
21. HELP!
22. Garmin II+ Antenna
23. Re: Garmin II+ Antenna
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Subject: RE: APRS and ArcView?
From: "Darryl Smith" <Darryl@radio-active.net.au>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 16:26:38 +1100
X-Message-Number: 1
Well, I have a bit of experience with this sort of thing. I am working
on a similar thing for OziExplorer at the moment... Called OziAPRS,
which can be found at
http://www.radio-active.net.au/web/gpsaprs/oziaprs.html
I would love to integrate with ArcView too... I just have no experience
with it... From what has been descrived of ArcView I think it would take
under an hour to get the interface working between OziAPRS (my software)
and ArcView.
Darryl
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Darryl Smith, VK2TDS POBox 169 Ingleburn NSW 2565 Australia
Mobile Number 0412 929 634 [+61 4 12 929 634 International]
Darryl@radio-active.net.au | www.radio-active.net.au
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Subject: Re: mobile APRS - beyond a tracker
From: WA8LMF2@aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 00:30:26 EST
X-Message-Number: 2
In a message dated 2/13/2003 7:40:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, ramon@ieee.org
writes:
>Your construction looks nice, but it has been mounted straight in front
>of the passenger size airbag. In the unfortunate case that your airbag
>goes off, the by-rider would get the laptop, or at least the
>plywood/aluminum table launched in the stomage... Seen that you drive a
>lot, you must have thought about this?
There's no airbag on the passenger side in this car. The top of the laptop
(the back of the display panel) is covered with black ribbed rubber matting
(glued on with silicone sealant). The original purpose of this was to make
the laptop less slippery to carry. It also camoflages it. When the laptop
lid is folded down, it looks like a utility table. To add to the illusion, I
have cut out some 3" round holes in the mat to look like cup holders.
If you look carefully in the animated photo of the installation, you may
notice my "unofficial NASA thermal management system" -- a piece of an
aluminized-mylar-bubble-pak type windshield shade fastened to the rubber mat
on the back of the display panel with Velco spots at the corners. In the
summer this keeps the laptop display's back from being roasted by the direct
sun. When I remove the machine from the car, I can pop the sunshade off
instantly by just peeling it off.
Once on a cross-country trip when I unplugged the machine and carried it into
a restaurant during a travel break, a 12-year old kid saw the folded laptop
covered in silver bubble pak and told his father "Hey look -- a solar powered
laptop! "....
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf @ aol.com
Home Page: http://wa8lmf.com
Ham Radio/Mobile SSTV page: http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/ham
APRS Stuff
http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs
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Subject: SAR and APRS
From: Kevin Deckert <kdeckert@mercuryspeed.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:03:32 -0800
X-Message-Number: 3
In currently developing protocols for the use of APRS in the SAR
environment there are several directions {splits} in which APRS fits in.
I agree with BOB B. that its finest use is as a tactical display with
limited info on the map but displaying relative locations of all units
in the field. On a large search the specific call signs take up a large
amount of real estate on a map. Perhaps if you have a huge computer
screen then detailed maps would be great.
Having one computer displaying basic overall info and another displaying
smaller search areas in more detail.
Avoiding the need to switch between views on a single computer.
It is great fun experimenting. Old adage of "cant see the forest for the
trees " comes to mind,
We are working with versions of winaprs and Uiview and then for the
detailed GPS info we download data direct from the GPS into the
Trackmaker Program. Having 'one' program do it all is ok but not truly
necessary. Have loaded Topo maps of our area in 1:50,000 into Uiview but
take some considerable manipulation it is not a straight across transfer
as the map file seems too large for Uiview to handle.
ve7whk, sar manager clearwater sar
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Subject: RE: SAR and APRS
From: "Dakota Summerhawk" <dakotas@hotpop.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 00:00:23 -0700
X-Message-Number: 4
Why not just filter the list coming into the pc for sar only? I thought that
could be done with afilter or the like or am I missing something here?
Thanks
Peter N0WRE
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Subject: Re: SAR and APRS
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 05:57:46 -0700
X-Message-Number: 5
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Deckert" <kdeckert@mercuryspeed.com>
To: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:03 PM
Subject: [aprssig] SAR and APRS
>In currently developing protocols for the use of APRS in the SAR
>environment there are several directions {splits} in which APRS fits in.
>
>I agree with BOB B. that its finest use is as a tactical display with
>limited info on the map but displaying relative locations of all units
>in the field. On a large search the specific call signs take up a large
>amount of real estate on a map. Perhaps if you have a huge computer
>screen then detailed maps would be great.
Kevin, I do not have the callsign display turned on at all and this works
effectively in all SAR and ICP applications I've used APRS in. If I need
to see information about a certain object or station/unit, I just double
click on it and there it is. I've never seen a need to leave the callsign
labels on...it just takes up space!
>Having one computer displaying basic overall info and another displaying
>smaller search areas in more detail.
>Avoiding the need to switch between views on a single computer.
>It is great fun experimenting. Old adage of "cant see the forest for the
>trees " comes to mind,
I agree, I use wall projectors to display on a wall or screen. Makes APRS
a great tool for the entire ICP or EOC. Problem is...those darn projectors
are expensive! The ultimate situation would be to have a screen for each
type of object/station/item.
>.. Have loaded Topo maps of our area in 1:50,000 into Uiview but
>take some considerable manipulation it is not a straight across transfer
>as the map file seems too large for Uiview to handle.
>ve7whk, sar manager clearwater sar
Are you using UI-Terra or just copying maps? You ca run into problems
copying flat maps!
Jim, WA6OFT
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Subject: Re: SAR and APRS
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 06:01:11 -0700
X-Message-Number: 6
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Deckert" <kdeckert@mercuryspeed.com>
To: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 11:03 PM
Subject: [aprssig] SAR and APRS
..
>Avoiding the need to switch between views on a single computer.
>It is great fun experimenting. Old adage of "cant see the forest for the
>trees " comes to mind,
I forgot to mention...something about data ingestion! If there were no
trees you wouldn't have a forest! IOW, the more data there is for someone
to ingest the better the final decision on a specific action!
Jim
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Subject: RE: SAR and APRS
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:17:26 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 7
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Dakota Summerhawk wrote:
>Why not just filter the list coming into the pc for sar only? I thought that
>could be done with afilter or the like or am I missing something here?
>Thanks
>Peter N0WRE
That's why APRS was designed with the SPECIAL and ALTNET modes.
If you set all participants in a SAR or any other special event to
"SPECIAL", then each user will only see all other participants and nothing
else, yet anyone else who wants to monitor will see everything.
As usual, I'm not sure how many other programs properly implemented
SPECIAL mode...
de WB4APR, Bob
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