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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Saturday, February 15, 2003.
1. Re: Garmin II+ Antenna
2. RE: HELP!
3. Re: Garmin II+ Antenna
4. RE: utility to connect to multiple servers?
5. Re: HELP!
6. RE: HELP!
7. digi_ned & BEACONet.25 [was RE: utility to connect to multiple servers?]
8. RE: HELP!
9. RE: HELP!
10. My packet elmer is sk
11. Locked Up
12. RE: Locked Up
13. RE: Locked Up
14. Re: My packet elmer is sk
15. RE: Locked Up
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Subject: RE: HELP!
From: "AE5PL Lists" <HamLists@ametx.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 07:23:18 -0600
X-Message-Number: 2
The only thing I see is the comment field following the PHG6430 is 44
characters. The spec says 36 characters maximum.
73,
Pete Loveall AE5PL
pete@ae5pl.net
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Subject: RE: utility to connect to multiple servers?
From: Henk de Groot <henk.de.groot@hetnet.nl>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:06:06 +0100
X-Message-Number: 4
At 18:26 13-2-03 -0500, Ev Tupis (W2EV) wrote:
>>I'm contemplating for quite some time to add [BEACONet] aliases to the
>default
>>digi_ned.ini rule-file. Of course anyone who wants to use DIGI_NED to
>
>As long as digi_net didn't translate one alias into the other, this would be
>welcome! (In fact, there are other aliases that exist in the BEACONet.25
Yes, that's the intention, just normal digipeating HOPn-N and SKIPn-N and
the others. I assume FLOOD should have the same restriction as RELAY; only
as first in the path.
Don't know what the default for JUMP (or GATE for that matter) should be. I
guess there does not even exist a "default" for this since it just dependes
on the local situation. When its a good idea, I will add them to the
default configuration in the next version.
Kind regards,
Henk.
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Subject: Re: HELP!
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:36:26 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 5
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Earl Needham wrote:
> Can anybody see anything wrong with this packet:
>
>W5TQ-4>ID,qAR,KA5KTH:!3019.36N/09747.96WnPHG6430/WIDE ARES Travis Cty -
>Austin, Texas ARESTC
>
>I was near this station recently, and every time it transmitted,
>either my TNC or my HamHUD would lock up. Is there something wrong
>here?
Donno why it woiuld lock up, but it is not really in acordance with APRS
design. It is an "ID" packet but has an APRS position format in the
payload. Thats like apples and oranges...
bob
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Subject: RE: HELP!
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 09:57:21 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 6
On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, AE5PL Lists wrote:
>The only thing I see is the comment field following the PHG6430 is 44
>characters. The spec says 36 characters maximum.
>>W5TQ-4>ID,qAR,KA5KTH:!3019.36N/09747.96WnPHG6430/WIDE ARES Travis Cty
>-Austin, Texas ARESTC
I dont see the advantage of the city and state name in a position packet,
and if it is a WIDE, then put the "W" overlay on it and save another 5
bytes. Or it could save 50% of air time using compressed format.
W5TQ-4>APRS,WIDE:!Wyyyyxxxx/#CTnnARES,ARESTC
and still convey all the information.
APRSdos has a command to calculate the compressed format for any location
of the cursor, making it easy to generate the characters needed for the
digi..
Now dont get me wrong, I am not criticizing this packet at all, Just
pointing out the options...
Bob
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Subject: digi_ned & BEACONet.25 [was RE: utility to connect to multiple
servers?]From: "Ev Tupis (W2EV)" <w2ev@arrl.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:13:03 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7
>>As long as digi_net didn't translate one alias into the other, this would be
>>welcome! (In fact, there are other aliases that exist in the BEACONet.25
>
>Yes, that's the intention, just normal digipeating HOPn-N and SKIPn-N and
>the others. I assume FLOOD should have the same restriction as RELAY; only
>as first in the path.
Hi Henk,
I would support the "FLOOD only in the first position" idea. It hasn't been
explored that deeply in the BEACONet.25 world, yet.
Will digi_ned run on Jeff's "lunchbox computer"? It may be time for me to
assemble one "unit" to test a bit.
Thanks for your interest!
Ev, W2EV
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Subject: RE: HELP!
From: Henk de Groot <henk.de.groot@hetnet.nl>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:11:46 +0100
X-Message-Number: 8
At 07:23 15-2-03 -0600, AE5PL Lists wrote:
>The only thing I see is the comment field following the PHG6430 is 44
>characters. The spec says 36 characters maximum.
>
>>From: Earl Needham [mailto:needhame@yucca.net]
>>Posted At: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:53 PM
>>Subject: [aprssig] HELP!
>>
>>W5TQ-4>ID,qAR,KA5KTH:!3019.36N/09747.96WnPHG6430/WIDE ARES Travis Cty
>- Austin, Texas ARESTC
If I understood Earl correctly, he said got this via RF. If that is the
case then both the TNC and HamHud may not like the call "qAR".
Although it is perfectly possible to encode this in an AX.25 frame, there
is a restriction to only use capital A..Z and digits 0..9 in the address
fields. The lowercase 'q' is not valid in that case.
Of course both the TNC and HamHud should not crash on this but just throw
the packet away as corrupted packet. In DIGI_NED I throw this kind of
packets with invalid callsigns away (it shows an invalid callsign message
and displays the packet on the screen, but does not do anything else with
it). Your TNC experience shows that this is the only right thing to do...
Kind regards,
Henk.
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Subject: RE: HELP!
From: Earl Needham <needhame@yucca.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 10:34:14 -0700
X-Message-Number: 9
At 06:11 PM 2/15/2003 +0100, Henk de Groot wrote:
>At 07:23 15-2-03 -0600, AE5PL Lists wrote:
>>The only thing I see is the comment field following the PHG6430 is 44
>>characters. The spec says 36 characters maximum.
>>
>>>From: Earl Needham [mailto:needhame@yucca.net]
>>>Posted At: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:53 PM
>>>Subject: [aprssig] HELP!
>>>
>>>W5TQ-4>ID,qAR,KA5KTH:!3019.36N/09747.96WnPHG6430/WIDE ARES Travis Cty
>>- Austin, Texas ARESTC
>
>If I understood Earl correctly, he said got this via RF. If that is the
>case then both the TNC and HamHud may not like the call "qAR".
No, the packet I quoted to the list came from FINDU. However,
when I was physically about 10 miles from W5TQ-4, either my TNC or my
HamHUD would crash every time W5TQ-4 would transmit a packet. Looking at
http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/rawposit.cgi?call=w5tq-4&start=99999&le
ngth=99999 shows every packet to be the same, with the exception of the
routing that took it to FINDU.
7 3
Earl
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Subject: My packet elmer is sk
From: Robert W Burton <kd4ydc@juno.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 15:49:41 -0500
X-Message-Number: 10
Some of you around the south might recognize the call sign N4KMJ. That
call belonged to one of the founders of packet radio here in the south.
His name was Jack Blair. He passed away last night of cancer. Jack was
one of the founders of many a node in Alabama and help countless others
in packet radio. Because of Jack, I have a great love for packet radio.
Because of Jack's determination to make EVERYONE aware of and be active
in SKYWARN, that I am in SKYWARN today (Jack's wife was killed at Goshen
Unitied Methodist Church in the Palm Sunday tornado that ripped through
Alabama and Georgia in the early 90's). Jack will be missed. At least
he is now with his wife, whom he loved dearly. 73 Jack
Robert Burton
KD4YDC
DEC ARES / NWS in Peachtree City
GA SKYWARN
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Subject: Locked Up
From: "Robert Michaud" <michaud@ispwest.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:34:12 -0800
X-Message-Number: 11
Group,
I downloaded, ran UI-Terra and was downloading a topo for S.F when the
computer completely froze, no mouse, no keyboard nothing. I had to reset.
I don't think it is a UI-Terra problem since my computer has recently been
locking up at least once a day when running IE 6.0 SP1. I had assumed the
problem was with IE 6.0 but if the problem occured with UI-Terra then
perhaps it is someting else; IE was not running at the time.
I am running the following:
Win98 SE
Pentium Pro
128 MB ram
2 GB HD
Intel V92 HaM Data Fax Voice modem
+ other peripherials CDrom, USB, SCSI, Printer, ZIPdrive, SoundCard; I have
the latest drivers.
PC-cillin(& firewall), WebWasher, & Pop-Up Stopper were running at the time.
Any thoughts?
Robert, KD6INI
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