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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Monday, May 31, 2004.
1. Re: SAR mapping support
2. RE: SAR mapping support
3. Re: SAR mapping support
4. APRSBoy
5. Automatic display of NWS radar images
6. PMmap New APRS Software Is Released To The World
7. D700 Mounting bracket
8. RE: SAR mapping support
9. Re: SAR mapping support
10. Registering the Precision Mapping map.ocx that PMmap installs
11. RE: Automatic display of NWS radar images
12. RE: Automatic display of NWS radar images
13. Re: SAR mapping support
14. Re: PMmap New APRS Software Is Released To The World
15. RE: SAR mapping support
16. Re: [sar-aprs] RE: SAR mapping support
17. Future of APRS ?
18. Future Concept : APRS Message server
19. Re: Future of APRS ?
20. RE: Future Concept : APRS Message server
21. Re: Tons of big name software at huge savings!
22. Re: D700 Mounting bracket
23. Re: [sar-aprs] RE: SAR mapping support
24. Re: SAR mapping support
25. Re: Ghost or Glitch SSID's??
26. Re: [sar-aprs] RE: SAR mapping support
27. findU/APRSworld maps
28. Re: [sar-aprs] RE: SAR mapping support
29. Re: [sar-aprs] RE: SAR mapping support
30. Re: Ghost or Glitch SSID's??
31. Re: [sar-aprs] RE: SAR mapping support
32. Re: [sar-aprs] RE: SAR mapping support
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Subject: Re: SAR mapping support
From: Curt Mills <archer@eskimo.com>
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 20:50:41 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 1
On Sun, 30 May 2004, Spider wrote:
>>In our county, National Geographic's "TOPO!" and Street Atlas. We
>>have others as well, but those two are what we voted on to use
>>currently.
>
>Curt, I am curious. How many of your teams have GPS's with moving maps? I
>would think those folks would insist on the maps they could use in the
>field.
We don't issue GPS's to the teams, and we don't put requirements on
them to have any particular type of GPS, to even have a GPS at all.
We also don't provide any kind of map downloading capability to them
from base. We have talked about buying a bunch of GPS's to issue to
the teams in order to get a full track during their search
assignment. We could then snag the track out of them when they're
done. Xastir already has that capability. We haven't voted to buy
the GPS's yet.
What we issue to the teams are paper maps, in a waterproof sleeve.
>All of ours team leaders are issued them and that determines which maps
>we'll use in the field now. And, there is only one choice for the Garmins.
>I was out today...three times. Kind Beta testing the OpenTrak stuff, my
>tracker and plotting part of a trail that is not on the topo. MapSource is
>actually working pretty good for us. The trails that are missing are easily
>plotted. Have you seen this? I'll send you a screen shot if you would like
>to see it. I have 2 mb loaded for my County and 17mb free in the GPS.
>Everything I've needed so far is now right in my hand.
Sure, I'd like to see that.
Our long weekend has been very quiet so far. Heavy rain tends to do
that.
>If I could figure
>out how to do the plots on findu or jfindu, I'd look at the plot for LP117
>and see if I was even making it to a digi! What an awesome trail that was!
I can snag up to two weeks of any station's posits from Findu using
Xastir. I use that feature often. If your posits were making it to
findu I can send you what I see.
--
Curt, WE7U. archer at eskimo dot com
http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown
Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U.
The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Subject: RE: SAR mapping support
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@3xf.com>
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 01:17:44 -0700
X-Message-Number: 2
I'm stuck with what laptops we have already, so no dual-booting, and VMWare
is too much overhead. I'm going to try Cygwin when I get a chance.
I'm afraid I don't have time to devote to Xastir coding at the moment.
Maybe someday. I do appreciate all the work that others have put into the
project. I update from CVS often, and it's always fun to see new features
pop up. But I'd sacrifice 120 of those 130 or so map formats for a good map
management interface.
Scott
N1VG
-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Mills [mailto:archer@eskimo.com]
On Fri, 28 May 2004, Scott Miller wrote:
>Now, Xastir has support for a wide variety of formats and provides zoom
>features, and it seems to be able to automatically select which map sources
>to use for a given area and zoom level. Still, its chooser interface is
>limited. And of course it's written for Linux - I've never tried to get it
>to run on Cygwin and I'm not thrilled about having to try. Having a
>separate Linux laptop just isn't an option.
Depending on your speed/hard drive size, you have these options:
1) Dual-boot between Linux and Windows (or FreeBSD and Windows).
Free.
2) Run Cygwin. Free.
3) Run VMWare, which will allow you to run both Linux and Windows at
the same time. This ones costs a bit, $300 I think for a license.
Highly recommended if you have the funds though, and must continue
to run Windows.
>Anyway, the bottom line is that I've got some 20 or 30 gigabytes of maps -
>mostly DRGs and DOQQs - that cover this county with the required resolution,
>and fitting them on a modern laptop is no problem, but I don't have anything
>that'll let a user easily start from a county-wide view, zoom in, and switch
>from street view to topo view to photo view without having to manually
>select images and maps by name.
Xastir can do that zooming in thing by setting the correct map levels for
the different types of maps. We could also add more buttons for selecting
between classes of maps, if that would be useful (topo's/shapefile/DOQQ).
If a few more buttons are all you need, we could add those fairly quickly.
I would think that having them additive instead of exclusive would allow
you do add street maps on top of the topo or DOQQ fairly easily.
Have you considered submitting patches to Xastir to provide the
functionality desired? I know you have some coding ability. ;-)
I saw the feature request you did quite a while back regarding the map
chooser, but haven't heard anything since on it. If we can help, let us
know.
--
Curt, WE7U. archer at eskimo dot com
http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math. - unknown
Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates. - WE7U.
The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Subject: Re: SAR mapping support
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@3xf.com>
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 01:23:59 -0700
X-Message-Number: 3
>It is completely automatic with Xastir. Seamless topo maps,
>seamless street maps. Seamless street maps on top of topo or
And still no 'zoom' rectangle display when you drag the mouse across the
map! =] THAT I might try to write a patch for just because it annoys me so
much.
The ability to convert maps into some kind of Xastir-internal format would
be nice, too - do all of the decompression, projection, and so on up front,
and save it all to a file that Xastir can access as fast as possible.
Hmmm... is there any free equivalent to MrSID?
That'd also reduce the map management work, if I could make one DRG and one
DOQ file for the entire county. Drive space is cheap... I don't mind
spending 40 gigabytes on maps if it means I have fast access to everything I
need.
Scott
N1VG
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Subject: APRSBoy
From: "Sadowski, Allan" <allan.sadowski@ncshp.org>
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 08:24:30 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4
http://www.redskymobile.com/index.cfm is an interesting start! With the
soon to be delivered dual screen unit... where one of the screens is a
touch screen... things get even better. $200 for the GPS and a few maps
seems a bit much though.
ALOHA
AH6LS
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Subject: Automatic display of NWS radar images
From: "Bill Diaz" <william.diaz@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 08:10:45 -0500
X-Message-Number: 5
NWSGet is a beta application designed to download and automatically underlay
NWS radar images in Ui-View/Precision Mapping. The radar images are
displayed underneath PMap street detail.
When used with Ui-NWS, the radar images display over the WWA Shape file
areas and beneath the PMap street detail.
See http://www.billdiaz.dynip.com for details and to download the beta
version.
Bill : KC9XG
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Subject: PMmap New APRS Software Is Released To The World
From: kb2scs@optonline.net
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 09:57:00 -0400
X-Message-Number: 6
Hi All
This morning I have released PMmap to the World. First a few cavites.
In order to use PMmap you have to be a registered user of Precision Mapping
version 6.0. PMmap only uses Precision Mapping maps for its map interface
At this time PMmap is missing some important APRS features.
PMmap at this time does not know what a GPS is. So for now PMmap is only
useful for non moving stations.
PMmap does not connect to the internet.
PMmap does not connect to weather stations such as Peet and Davis.
PMmap does not use the sound card at this time.
So why did I release PMmap given the above limintations. I have been
working on PMmap for two years now and realized that if I waited for PMmap
to have all the features it would never be released.
What is PMmap? PMmap is a Windows based APRS client software. It was
created to fill the precived need for APRS client software that not only
follows the APRS spec but also does APRS like APRSdos does.
Since because of the above limintations I AM NOT AT THIS TIME ACCEPTING
REGISTRATIONS. I am not even sure what if anything I am going to charge for
PMmap. There is no difference between the registered version and non
registered version of PMmap except the registered version of PMmap saves
your parameters.
If you do try PMmap please do not send me E-Mails asking for this or that
feature. Please do send me E-Mails letting me know what you think overall
and of course any bugs you find. Please put "PMmap" in your subject line.
Please go to the following URL and check out PMmap
http://www.qsl.net/kb2scs/
Let us hope we never witness the "Silence Of The Hams"
73 DE John KB2SCS
E-Mail: kb2scs@arrl.net
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