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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Friday, April 30, 2004.

1. LInux + 802.11x + two serial ports= ?
2. TEST
3. Re: d700
4. ping
5. Re: Antenna Question (Slightly off topic)
6. RE: Internet to RF
7. Re: HAMFEST time....
8. Re: d700
9. Re: Antenna Question (Slightly off topic)
10. Re: digipeater naming conventions
11. RE: APRS alternate BBS and Bulk channel
12. Re: digipeater naming conventions
13. Re: d700
14. Re: digipeater naming conventions
15. Re: digipeater naming conventions
16. Re: digipeater naming conventions
17. RE: APRS alternate BBS and Bulk channel
18. Re: d700
19. Re: d700
20. Re: ping
21. Lyris glitch
22. Re: digipeater naming conventions
23. Re: d700
24. APRS at the BirmingHamfest
25. UIview object transmission vs APRSdos
26. Re: Antenna Question (Slightly off topic)
27. Re: digipeater naming conventions
28. 802.11x two serial ports.... 802.11 APRS ?
29. D7 Antenna mods
30. Re: 802.11x two serial ports.... 802.11 APRS ?
31. IGate Server List
32. Re: 802.11x two serial ports.... 802.11 APRS ?
33. Re: D7 Antenna mods
34. 802.11 APRS ?
35. Re: 7-Channel NWR-SAME Weatheradio with USB Interface
36. Cross-country drive and APRS coverage report
37. Re: 7-Channel NWR-SAME Weatheradio with USB Interface
38. Re: IGate Server List
39. GPS Watch -- does anyone know anything about it??
40. Long distance wireless APRS
41. Re: Cross-country drive and APRS coverage report
42. Re: Long distance wireless APRS
43. RE: Cross-country drive and APRS coverage report
44. Re: GPS Watch -- does anyone know anything about it??
45. RE: IGate Server List
46. Re: Cross-country drive and APRS coverage report
47. Re: Long distance wireless APRS
48. Re: 802.11x two serial ports.... 802.11 APRS ?
49. Re: GPS Watch -- does anyone know anything about it??
50. Re: UNPROTO
51. RE: Long distance wireless APRS
52. Re: 7-Channel NWR-SAME Weatheradio with USB Interface
53. RE: Cross-country drive and APRS coverage report
54. [Fwd: Re: 7-Channel NWR-SAME Weatheradio with USB Interface]
55. ping again
56. Re: D7 Antenna mods

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Subject: LInux + 802.11x + two serial ports= ?
From:     Jeff King <jeff@aerodata.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 15:05:37 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

Something to stuff in the idea box, but there is a Wireless router, the 
LinkSys WRT54G, that runs Linux and only costs about $85 last time I bought 
one. Needless to say, it has been fully hacked now, and folks are running 
quite a number of Linux applications on it. Look at this page to start:

http://dailywireless.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2432

In any case, that is all well and good for 802.11b stuff, which of course 
hams use, but how can we translate this to other ham activities? Take a look 
at this page:

http://www.rwhitby.net/wrt54gs/serial.html

which adds two serial ports to the box. Are the wheels turning yet?

If not, let me run a few ideas past you:

Take John Hansen's KISS TNCX, port APRSD or APRSNOS over to the box, and 
bang, instant APRS gateway you can drop anywhere there is 802.11x coverage.

Or put one of these boxes at your repeater site and hook it via the serial 
port to your repeater controller.

Or slap a STC pactor modem on it and interface into the WinLink network.

Or.... <anything that can be controled via serial port>

You get the idea here, and I do need to note none of the above software 
exists, yet the $85 box that could do the above does now exist.

Of course, it does make a nice 802.11b access point as well  ;-)

-- 
Jeff King, jeff@aerodata.net on 04/29/2004

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Subject: TEST
From: "Richard Amirault" <ramirault@erols.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:16:07 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2

Ok...haven't seen a message for DAYS .. it the sig broke or did I get
un-subscribed?

Richard Amirault                                N1JDU                Boston,
MA, USA
www.erols.com/ramirault          "Go Fly A Kite"

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Subject: Re: d700
From: David VanHorn <dvanhorn@cedar.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:56:19 -0500
X-Message-Number: 3

At 04:43 PM 4/27/2004 -0400, Wes Johnston wrote:

>A buddy of mine ordered a D700 from gigaparts and after 2 weeks on
>backorder, they cancelled the order and said they were discontinuing the
>radio.  Is this a manufacturer discontinued item, or just them?  It still
>shows in stock on their web site... but the site does also show that the
>desktop charger for the d7a is discontinued.

Hmm.. Does this bode well, or badly?  I guess Dayton will tell.

BTW: The sig seems incredibly quiet lately.

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Subject: ping
From: Wes Johnston <wes@johnston.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:59:49 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4

ping

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Subject: Re: Antenna Question (Slightly off topic)
From: David VanHorn <dvanhorn@cedar.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:00:26 -0500
X-Message-Number: 5

At 05:58 PM 4/27/2004 +0000, Phil Pacier, AD6NH wrote:

>Hi folks. I am interested in knowing if there is a contraption that will 
>allow a pair of 2 meter radios to utilize the same antenna. I have been 
>told that there is something called a "combiner" that will enable me to do 
>this, but the pieces of equipment I have found that are called "combiners" 
>are in the four digit cost category.
>
>Here's the scenario: I would like to set up a receive station for ISS, etc. 
>2 meter signals.  Problem is, I cannot put up any more antennas outside 
>(I'm lucky to have the two vertical antennas up on my apartment balcony as 
>it is).  I need a device that will close off xcvr A when xcvr B is 
>transmitting (like a duplexer, but both inputs being 2m).  Hope this makes 
>sense.  Thanks in advance!

A pin diode switch can do this, but they aren't cheap, and you'd need one
for each radio.

Filters can do this, IF the frequencies are widely separated.

There may be a "magic coax harness" technique, or maybe something with
circulators, but they are also pricey.

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Subject: RE: Internet to RF
From: "AE5PL Lists" <HamLists@ametx.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 22:17:07 -0500
X-Message-Number: 6

If you can send messages from RF to the Internet, then you are already
receiving messages from APRS-IS to RF (the acks are standard messages).
So, the answer is: gating of messages between RF and APRS-IS is done
automatically by the IGate software.  You do not (and you cannot)
specify which IGate gates your messages.  Going to APRS-IS, the IGate
that gets the packet to APRS-IS first wins, the others are duped out.
Going to RF, the IGate software keeps a "recently heard" list to
determine which stations to gate messages to.  In many metropolitan
cases, multiple IGates may be gating to messages to RF destined for the
same station.

Hope this helps.

73,

Pete Loveall AE5PL
pete@ae5pl.net

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael J. Pawlowsky
>Posted At: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:42 PM
>Subject: [aprssig] Internet to RF
>
>I know that APRS messages can be sent from RF to the
>Internet, but does it work the otherway around as well?
>Can you send a message from the Net to RF. If so, if there a
>way to route it to say from what iGate you want to be transmitted on?

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Subject: Re: HAMFEST time....
From: "Stephen H. Smith" <WA8LMF2@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 20:48:33 -0700
X-Message-Number: 7

Keith Allen wrote on 4/28/2004, 8:02 PM:

>I need help.  I'm looking for a TNC
>that supports the APRS function fully (uidigi commands, etc).  Can you
>guys send me input on what brands and models to look for and what price
>ranges might not be too bad.

If you are talking about off-the-shelf ready-to-run commercial units 
that support WIDEn-N digipeating,  callsign substitution, dupe 
suppression, ec, the ONLY choice is the KPC3+.  Avoid the earlier plain 
KPC3 -- this is a discontinued unit no longer supported by Kantronics. 
As a result, firmware upgrades for modern APRS operation are no longer 
provided.

If you are willing to burn UI-DIGI eproms to replace the OEM firmware, 
any TNC-2 clone such as the MFJ-1270x series will work.

What you do NOT want is non-TNC2 units such as PK232s, etc. None of 
these have any APRS "smarts" that will let them function as stand-alone 
WIDEn-N digipeaters.   If you intend to use a computer running an APRS 
program such as DigiNed or UI-View to provide the brains of the digi, 
then any TNC that supports KISS will work.

Stephen H. Smith                   wa8lmf (at)  aol.com
Home Page:                                         http://wa8lmf.com
Ham Radio/Mobile SSTV page:     http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/ham
APRS Stuff 
http://members.aol.com/wa8lmf/aprs

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Subject: Re: d700
From: Sean Jewett <sean@rimboy.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 00:17:31 -0500 (CDT)
X-Message-Number: 8

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, David VanHorn wrote:

>At 04:43 PM 4/27/2004 -0400, Wes Johnston wrote:
> 
>>A buddy of mine ordered a D700 from gigaparts and after 2 weeks on
>>backorder, they cancelled the order and said they were discontinuing
>>the radio.  Is this a manufacturer discontinued item, or just them?
>>It still shows in stock on their web site... but the site does also
>>show that the desktop charger for the d7a is discontinued.
> 
>Hmm.. Does this bode well, or badly?  I guess Dayton will tell.

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.  I just checked HRO and they're not 
showing a status on stock.  

Sean...

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