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Subject: APRS Pizza Bash - Dayton
From: Greg Noneman <greg@clubnet.net>
Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 10:09:11 -0700
X-Message-Number: 13
We're only two weeks from Dayton and I haven't heard anything about an
APRS pizza party.
Is anything planned this year? James?
Greg
WB6ZSU
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Subject: Re: APRS Pizza Bash - Dayton
From: Carl Taylor <carltt@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 13:36:07 -0400
X-Message-Number: 14
>We're only two weeks from Dayton and I haven't heard anything about an
>APRS pizza party.
>
>Is anything planned this year? James?
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Lets get a PA system for this year......
If it ain't toooo much, I will pay for the rental....
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Subject: Reminder: 2004 TAPR Digital BASH at Hamvention
From: John Ackermann N8UR <jra@febo.com>
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 13:41:52 -0400
X-Message-Number: 15
Just a reminder about the 2004 TAPR Digital BASH...
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What?
An event for the digitally-inclined ham, featuring:
* Buffet dinner
* Keynote Address: "Open Source in the Real World" by John Ackermann, N8UR
* Informal "Birds of a Feather" gatherings
* Door Prizes!
When?
Friday evening, May 14, 2004
Doors open at 7:00 pm; dinner served at 7:30 pm
Speaker, meetings, and door prizes after dinner
Where?
Kohler's Banquet Center, 4548 Presidential Way, Kettering (39 40.75N, 84
08.43W). From downtown Dayton, take Main Street, which becomes Far
Hills Ave., south to David Road, then east to Presidential Way. Turn
south on Presidential Way. Kohler's is on the left about 1/4 mile
south. Maps available on the TAPR web site
(http://www.tapr.org/tapr/dayton, follow the link at the bottom of the
page), or at the TAPR booth.
How?
Dinner requires advance registration and payment through TAPR. Tickets
will be available at the TAPR booth on Friday, though we strongly
encourage registration <before> Hamvention. The cost is $xx.xx per
person, tax and tip included.
All amateurs are welcome to attend, enjoy the speaker, and participate
in the meetings, although only those purchasing a dinner can eat.
To register, contact:
Digital BASH
c/o TAPR
8987-309 E. Tanque Verde Road #337
Tucson, AZ 85749-9399
Phone: 972-671-TAPR (8277)
Fax: 972-671-8716
Internet: tapr@tapr.org
Visa/Mastercard Accepted
Who?
The Digital BASH is co-sponsored by TAPR -- Tucson Amateur Packet
Radio, the national leader in digital communication -- and the
Miami Valley FM Association, Dayton's packet radio club.
For more information (including maps), go to http://www.tapr.org/tapr/dayton,
or send email to tapr@tapr.org.
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Subject: Odd behaviour w/ Etrex
From: "Brian Riley (maillist)" <n1bq_list@wulfden.org>
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 14:27:19 -0400
X-Message-Number: 16
I had fixed up and gotten a TinyTrak II running for VE2EQL and it was
working just fine. He came down yesterday and we went to Hosstrader's
Hamfest down in NH and got home lllllaaaattte last night. This morning we
hooked up his TT2 into his vehicle to his Etrex using his cable (a third
party cable made from a Pfranc connector with a 3volt regulator in the DB9
shell.)
He took off and the TT put out one status frame with no position. He drove
back and we looked at it I moved his GPS and his cable over to my D700 and
brought up Pmon and it was putting out $GPRMC sentences that were all locked
up just fine, but my D700 didn't consider it a valid fix. That's when it
dawned on me that I was not seeing any $GPGGA sentences at all.
So we sat down with a continuity tester and found out that the guy who made
the cable had pins 2 & 3 switched. I corrected that and all was well in
River City ....
I know what was wrong and how we fixed it, but how were the $GPRMC
sentences getting through with the pins reversed like that?????????
Inquiring minds want to know.
--
Cheers ... 73 de brian, n1bq, underhill center, vt, usa
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Subject: Re: On digipeater naming conventions
From: Jeff King <jeff@aerodata.net>
Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 15:08:38 -0400
X-Message-Number: 17
earl:
>From: "Earl Needham" <needhame1@yucca.net> To: "TAPR APRS Special
>Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org> Sent: Saturday, May 01,
>2004 9:06 AM Subject: [aprssig] Re: On digipeater naming conventions
>
>>
>>I haven't followed this discussion too closely,
Dittos
>but didn't the old
>>packet system have MANY nodes that used the telephone area code
>>along with an abbreviation for the name of the city?
I think the old ROSE network pushed this. Some folks (including myself) used
to use the closest airport identifiers. For example, our 220 mhz netrom node
was named: DET220
and our NOS systems netrom node was named: DETIP We tried to standardize
on the location first, then the band or us (the IP switch was multiport).
DET is the airport identifier of Detroit City airport. Some of the Wayne
county emergency folks, who where located on the grounds of Detroit Metro
Airport, used DTWxx as their identifier (DTW is the airport identifier)
The nice thing about this is it wasn't "yet another made up system" and used
publicly documented identifiers. The bad thing was in urban areas you have
folks competing over airport identifiers and in the rural areas, sometimes
they don't make alot of sense (my local airport identifier here is KJYM
located in the city of Hillsdale MI).
>>Like 305MLB for Melbourne, Florida...
OK, let me figure this one out. I go to this site (or my phone book):
http://www.lincmad.com/locator.html
and I see it is in Florida. Real helpful getting a rough idea on band
openings. So I am left with "MLB" and if I can't figure this out, I go here:
http://www.airnav.com/navaids/
and type "MLB"
and bingo, Melborne Florida.
Now, I think they have added a "K" to all airport indentfiers, so while MLB
is the navigation aid, MLB is not the airport. KMLB is the airport, so you'll
need to work this out. Here is the airport indentifier web site:
http://www.airnav.com/airports/
>The CLLI for Melbourne, Florida is: MLBRFL
>Akron, OH would be: AKRNOH
>Lake Havasu City, AZ would be: LHCYAZ
>Very simple protocol and most people can figure them out just by looking at
>them.
You mean this? http://www.telcodata.us/telcodata/clli
This Lake Havasu one is cryptic so I disagree that it is easy to figure out
in particular if one does not live near AZ. But the FAA designator for Lake
Havasu is even more cyptic (KHII) so as long as it is publicly documented,
either seems to make sense to me.
Do note, that proper CLLI data is NOT 6 chars long but is 10 chars long. For
example, my local switch's CLLI is:
CMBAMIXJRSA
Now, if I type in CMBAMI at http://www.telcodata.us/telcodata/clli
it still comes back with one hit of Cambria MI, just be aware of this.
I like it.
The nice thing about this is it tracks population real well, much better then
the airport identifiers as small airports are closing in Urban areas. And
most important of all, it is not some undocumented wild ass kludge invention.
Just document that we are using the first 6 chars ending at the state and you
should be goldent
P.S. to everyone else, here is how to look up your CLLI for area code and
exchange. I assume it should match the location of the digipeater:
http://www.telcodata.us/telcodata/telco
P.P.S. Sorry if this has already been covered, I just saw this message.
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Subject: Re: GPS Watch -- does anyone know anything about it??
From: Ross <lobsta@midmaine.com>
Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 16:11:54 -0400
X-Message-Number: 18
I have been using the forerunner 201 for about 9 months for my marathon
training. It is a great unit, very accurate even under tree cover, in
rain and snow. If you go to Runnersworld.com and then click on the forums
section and search the groups for forerunner you will get all sorts of
information. I wish I could link it up to my Kenwood.
Ross
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Subject: Re: On digipeater naming conventions
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 13:34:39 -0700
X-Message-Number: 19
>Do note, that proper CLLI data is NOT 6 chars long but is 10 chars long.
>For example, my local switch's CLLI is:
>CMBAMIXJRSA
Hi Jeff!
That is 11 chars. The CLLI format was used in the southwest somewhat
(145.070) when packet began and it's nothing new. Just seems too hard for
people to figure out, I guess. CLLI codes can define a piece of equipment
and a location if you choose to be that defined, LHCY is not criptic, it is
a uniform pattern used. I suppose anyone near here that had a local
interest could figure it out. There is also HVSUAZ and HVSUCA for parts of
Havasu not bound by city limits and on either side of the lake (Ca and Az).
My old Packet node in Havasu was HVSUAZ.
PRDMAZ and PRDMCA for Parker Dam, Az and Parker Dam, Ca. In your example,
we are not defining a switch or type of switch, so the complete CLLI is not
needed.
Doesn't matter to me, none of them will ever become a standard across the
country. That's been tried before, many years ago. None of the standards
developed were ever a over whelming national success. There were pockets of
this sort of coordination. Hey! Yuma, AZ is easy! YUMAAZ.
There is CLLI documentation all over the place and a well defined
instruction on how to properly make them can be found somewhere. Takes all
the guess work out of it. Very simple. English buffs would catch on
really quick on how to make them up.
Jim, WA6OFT
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