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Subject: RE: HF Extended Coverage
From: Glenn Wiebe <gswiebe@mb.sympatico.ca>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:27:01 -0600
X-Message-Number: 6
Thanks for your prompt response, Eric. Yes I realize that wide2-2, etc.
by itself won't work. I was trying to save myself some typing by leaving
out gate. :-)
73 de Glenn...VE4GN
BTW, I received your response before I got my posting, in fact I haven't
got it yet. Doesn't make sense!
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Subject: Getting thru a proxy server???
From: "Jacob Tennant" <k8jwt@adelphia.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:40:10 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7
I am setting up a Igate at our local 911 center but have hit a snag. They
are running what ID's as web-cache server and firewall for security and I
can't seem to get WinAPRS to pass thru it? Site sysop has given me a
user/passcode for the Igate giving it just enough access priviledges needed
but I don't know how to configure the software to do it???
Has anyone else had this problem and solved it? HOW?
Jacob Tennant-K8JWT
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Subject: Re: Getting thru a proxy server???
From: Steve Dimse <k4hg@tapr.org>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 12:54:09 -0500
X-Message-Number: 8
On 1/21/04 at 12:40 PM Jacob Tennant <k8jwt@adelphia.net> sent:
>I am setting up a Igate at our local 911 center but have hit a snag. They
>are running what ID's as web-cache server and firewall for security and I
>can't seem to get WinAPRS to pass thru it? Site sysop has given me a
>user/passcode for the Igate giving it just enough access priviledges needed
>but I don't know how to configure the software to do it???
>
>Has anyone else had this problem and solved it? HOW?
WinAPRS supports a telnet proxy as mentioned in the docs (that is the
reason that the central servers use port 23), see APRServe.txt in your
WinAPRS folder for details.
Steve K4HG
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Subject: Re: Getting thru a proxy server???
From: "Curt, WE7U" <archer@eskimo.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:57:05 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 9
The original solution to this problem was to connect to a server that
provided data on a port normally reserved for other things, like the telnet
port, port 23. I don't know if there are servers that still provide data
on that port though.
A lot of software has support for proxy servers. Xastir doesn't. I don't
know about other APRS apps.
It's possible you might be able to find another piece of software that
would do the proxy for you, and provide a normal socket on your machine for
WinAPRS to connect to.
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Curt, WE7U archer at eskimo dot com
Arlington, WA, USA http://www.eskimo.com/~archer
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Subject: Re: SAPPHIRE (NO-45) pass
From: Frank - KG6JVE <kg6jve@pasadena.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:31:41 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 10
On this morning's pass I heard my own traffic digipeated sevral times
using a 2 meter 1/4 antenna from my car. I also heard AD6NH.
http://pcsat.aprs.org
This Saturday (01/24/04) I'll be up at 5,800 feet in Southern California
and will have another 1/4 wave setup with Igate for the whole day. If you
can, send up some traffic.
My setup is a Kenwood D700 and UI-View path: APRS,KE6QMD,SGATE,WIDE
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/news/wsr.html#no-45
Frank
KG6JVE
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Subject: Re: SAPPHIRE (NO-45) pass
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 11:44:06 -0700
X-Message-Number: 11
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank - KG6JVE" <kg6jve@pasadena.net>
>On this morning's pass I heard my own traffic digipeated sevral times
>using a 2 meter 1/4 antenna from my car. I also heard AD6NH.
>http://pcsat.aprs.org
>
10:06:10T WA6OFT-11>APU25J,WIDE <UI C Len=24>:
>211405zUI-View32 V1.99
10:26:29R AD6NH-13>APU25J,KE6QMD*,SGATE,WIDE <UI C Len=45>:
=3352.18NS11749.77W&SatGate 437.100 {UIV32N}
10:26:34R AD6NH-13>APU25J,KE6QMD*,SGATE,WIDE <UI C Len=37>:
:KG6JVE :Sapphire message test!{17
10:28:34R KG6JVE-1>APU25J,KE6QMD*,SGATE,WIDE <UI C Len=23>:
:AD6NH-13 :Got it!!{13
10:28:55R KG6JVE-1>APU25J,KE6QMD*,SGATE,WIDE <UI C Len=23>:
:AD6NH-13 :Got it!!{13
10:29:06R KG6JVE-1>APU25J,KE6QMD*,SGATE,WIDE <UI C Len=23>:
:AD6NH-13 :Got it!!{13
11:06:10T WA6OFT-11>APU25J,WIDE <UI C Len=24>:
>211405zUI-View32 V1.99
There is my log!
Jim
WA6OFT
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Subject: Re: HF Extended Coverage
From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@usna.edu>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:06:24 -0500 (EST)
X-Message-Number: 12
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Glenn Wiebe wrote:
>I use WinAPRS 261 & a Kam to operate a 30m/2m gateway station. I live in
>an area with a limited number of APRS users. With the aid of a local
>UI-DIGI digipeater we can access a metropolitan area some 30 miles away.
>Many HF APRS stations use an Unproto of gate,wide or echo,gate,wide
>though some use wide2-2. Wide,wide or wide2-2 would be more suitable for
>me. Perhaps there are other locations where wide,wide would be more
>suitable, I don't know. Unless there are some downsides to this, I
>suggest all HF users consider using wide,wide. Or is there a way I can
>'jigger' UI-DIGI to do this for me?
Well, from the beginning we were quite opposed to anything longer than
ONE hop after a local HF gateway, becusae it extended the QRM out of the
local area and beign 2 hops away, it became irritating to people to have
stuff coming in from one or two states away, and just not part of the
local HAM community. Strangers, so to speak.
It then becomes impossible to resolve QRM issues when everyone is dealing
with strangers instead of data being injected locally by one of their
own. Thus the rule was, that HF packets should not be transmitted with
moer than one generic hop at the other end. This keeps ARPS manageable.
It doesnt help you, but you can see how it would affect everyone else...
de WB4APR, Bob
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Subject: Re: Getting thru a proxy server???
From: Frank - KG6JVE <kg6jve@pasadena.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:23:56 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 13
It's not likley that it will work through an http proxy.
Part of my work is to manage proxy servers for very secure environments.
We'll often allow traffic out through the firewalls after doing some
analysis. We'll often allow it and will "lock" the traffic down to specific
destination hosts and ports.
Can you ask the firewall administrators to review your requirements?
Frank
KG6JVE
>On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Jacob Tennant wrote:
>
>>I am setting up a Igate at our local 911 center but have hit a snag. They
>>are running what ID's as web-cache server and firewall for security and I
>>can't seem to get WinAPRS to pass thru it? Site sysop has given me a
>>user/passcode for the Igate giving it just enough access priviledges needed
>>but I don't know how to configure the software to do it???
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Subject: Re: Getting thru a proxy server???
From: "Jacob Tennant" <k8jwt@adelphia.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:14:58 -0500
X-Message-Number: 14
Thats what I have done but he has asked me what we need to do to get the
software to do its thing, meaning how do I tell WinAPRS to hit the proxy
server?
I have activated the line in APRSserv.txt that says proxie but it doesn't
work.
Jacob Tennant-K8JWT
>It's not likley that it will work through an http proxy.
>
>Part of my work is to manage proxy servers for very secure
>environments. We'll often allow traffic out through the firewalls after
>doing some analysis. We'll often allow it and will "lock" the traffic down
>to specific destination hosts and ports.
>
>Can you ask the firewall administrators to review your requirements?
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Subject: Everyone should read this if in USA
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:20:16 -0700
X-Message-Number: 15
http://www.emforum.org/vforum/lc040121.htm
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Subject: RE: HF Extended Coverage
From: Brian D Heaton <bdheaton@c4i2.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:32:17 -0500
X-Message-Number: 16
Glenn,
I believe digi_ned will rewrite the unproto paths for you if you set it
up right.
73/N5VFF
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 12:27, Glenn Wiebe wrote:
>Thanks for your prompt response, Eric. Yes I realize that wide2-2, etc.
>by itself won't work. I was trying to save myself some typing by leaving
>out gate. :-)
>
>73 de Glenn...VE4GN
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