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Subject: Source Code for TNC-X - Request for Comments before making a final
decision
From: John Hansen <hansen@fredonia.edu>
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 19:26:08 -0500
X-Message-Number: 8
I'm sorry to have appeared to be "dragging my feet." on the source code
issue for TNC-X. I've received a lot of comments on this both publicly and
in private and I've been giving a lot of thought to the matter. I'm sorry
I haven't gotten back to most of you who have sent comments, but I hope to
get caught up on my email soon. I have been listening. I've made a
tentative decision on the matter, but I'd like to hear what others of you
have to say about my analysis before I actually commit to one option or
another. As I said before, I don't claim to have any expertise in this
area at all and could easily stumble along and make a mess of it. So I'm
trying to proceed cautiously.
My goals are:
1. To release the source so everyone can freely see it and use it. I have
heard from a lot of people who found my DCC papers on doing packet with a
PIC to be helpful, and I think there really needs to be a "one stop
shopping place" where people can see at least one way that this type of
functionality can be implemented. In this sense, it probably helps that
the project was written in C because that makes it a bit easier for the
average person to follow than it would be if it were written in assembly
language.
2. I do want people to be able to use this code in their own projects. I
also want to be able to use it in future projects of my own. A key issue,
it seems to me, is whether I want people who use it in their projects to
have make the result freely available as well. In particular, if I decide
to use this code in one of my future projects (say, a higher speed TNC) do
I want to commit now to releasing the code for that project? I'm not sure
I'm willing to commit to that at this point.
3. I'd like to make a little money on this. However, I think at this point
TNC-X has been sufficiently warmly received that I'm not too worried about
this. Someone might come along and offer a kit or built unit for
substantially less money than I'm asking, but to do that they would have to
make them in much higher volume and I wonder if anyone is willing to take
that risk at this point. In any case, by then I'll surely have something
else to sell and will come out all right on TNC-X.
Given those goals, I'm leaning toward the X11 license (as I understand it,
this is basically the same as the modified BSD license). The main reason
I'm thinking about doing this rather than GNU-GPL is that I want to make
sure that I can develop other projects that use parts of this code without
having to decide now whether to release the source code or not.
I would appreciate any comments on these conclusions from those of you with
some experience in this area.
John W2FS
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Subject: Re: KPC-3 does interesting things...
From: "Ryan" <n2yqt@nycap.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 21:28:21
X-Message-Number: 9
I dropped a nextel phone at a fire call in the winter time a year ago.
Luckily it was in a path through some deep snow that acted like a drainage
ditch ensuring a constant soaking of dirty sooty water runoff from the
fire. It was found an hour later and handed to me with a pat on the back. I
removed the battery and memory card and swished it in distilled water found
on an ambulance until the water stayed clear and no more black crap ran out
of it. Then I set it on the heater of one of the fire trucks for the
duration of the fire. It seemed dry at that point but I slow roasted it on
the computer monitor at work for turning every few hours. No basting is
recommended. I reassembled and it powered up. Worked fine after that. No
really it did!
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