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TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Digest for Thursday, October 16, 2003.
1. ADSB - APRS for Aircraft
2. Anderson Power Poles
3. RE: Anderson Power Poles
4. Re: Anderson Power Poles
5. Re: Anderson Power Poles
6. Anderson Power Poles
7. [RE: Anderson Power Poles]
8. Re: Anderson Power Poles
9. Balloon Information
10. Re: Anderson Power Poles
11. Re: Anderson Power Poles
12. Re: Anderson Power Poles
13. Re: Anderson Power Poles
14. Re: Anderson Power Poles
15. Re: Anderson Power Poles
16. Re: Anderson Power Poles
17. Re: Anderson Power Poles
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Subject: ADSB - APRS for Aircraft
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:04:21 +1000
X-Message-Number: 1
I have added a story on my web site
http://www.tech-software.net/
Cheers Andrew vk4tec
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Subject: Anderson Power Poles
From: Robert Radmore <rradmore@wzrd.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:25:49 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2
Not looking to start another Power Pole fiasco but, is there a consensus as
to the assembly so as to be interchangeable among groups such as ARES or
RACES.
Thanks
Bob N2PWP
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Subject: RE: Anderson Power Poles
From: "Christensen, Eric" <CHRISTENSENE@MAIL.ECU.EDU>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 13:51:25 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3
Anderson Power Poles were accepted by North Carolina ARES.
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Subject: Re: Anderson Power Poles
From: Randy Allen <ka0azs@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:36:28 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4
ALMOST all of the references I've found have when viewed from the
contact side (opposite the wiring side) with tongue down and hood up,
the RED is on the LEFT and the BLACK is on the RIGHT. This is the
configuration adopted by Ohio District 3 ARES. You can see a graphic on
our web site at: http://www.qsl.net/ohd3ares/equip.htm#APP
I know of one or 2 areas that are using a different standard, but this
seems to be the one agreed on by the overwhelming majority of the
ARES/RACES web sites I researched prior to our ARES group adopting the
APP connector and polarity standards. It also matches the polarity used
by West Mountain Radio Rig Runner units and Powerwerx commercial
bulkhead mounts.
And it's how my TinyTrak, D-700 and KPC-3 units are wired (to keep this
on topic ;-)
YMMV, so ALWAYS check voltage and polarity with a meter when hooking up
to an unfamiliar power lead.
Hope this helps. 73
--
Randy Allen, KAĜAZS
EC, Montgomery CO Ohio
OH Dist. 3 ARES Web Page:
http://www.qsl.net/ohd3ares/
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Subject: Re: Anderson Power Poles
From: "Spider" <spider@rivcom.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:40:42 -0700
X-Message-Number: 5
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Allen" <ka0azs@earthlink.net>
To: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Cc: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" <aprssig@lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:36 AM
Subject: [aprssig] Re: Anderson Power Poles
ALMOST all of the references I've found have when viewed from the
contact side (opposite the wiring side) with tongue down and hood up,
the RED is on the LEFT and the BLACK is on the RIGHT. This is the
configuration adopted by Ohio District 3 ARES. You can see a graphic on
our web site at: http://www.qsl.net/ohd3ares/equip.htm#APP
How did this standard or any standard for a power connector Emergency
Services come to be? I have not followed this concept and I am having a
real hard time understanding why such a standard needs to be.
Other than for ham to ham swaps or fixed locations, how is this standard
going to help?
I suppose for swapping rigs from ham to ham this might be handy however, if
there is a disaster and I ask a ham to jump in a water truck to be that
trucks communications, how is this standard going to help me? How is this
standard going to help the ham that got stuck in the water truck....or any
other vehicle that ham communcations may be placed?
I surely hope that Hams are far more prepared than that of a power connector
standard to;
1. Adapt to any given situation to power your rig.
2. Improvise any possible way to connect your rig to power.
3. Overcome any obsticle that may be in the way of powering your rig.
A. Do 'you' have an emergency power kit? What's in it?
a. Wire
b. Wire Nuts
c. Wire Clamps
d. Electrical tape, various colors
e. crimp connectors
f. clamping connectors (J-clamps)
g. allegator clips and clamps
h. Wire strippers,cutters
i. Crimping tools
j. fuses
k. clamp tools - pliers, cresent wrench, screw drivers
l. Battery clamps, various types
I do not see how on earth having a standard on a power connector is going to
solve a typical everyday power situation. devices.
I run around powering things all the time in emergency situations. I'd much
rather have a wire I can strip, clamp and insulate, rather than worry about
not having the right connector. Lord knows I never seem to have the right
breakers!
I think that this standard needs to include all thinkable possibilities and
hams should have the gear to connect to power any way they can, in very
short notice. To prove my point...just go to your neighbor with your radio
in your hand and hook your radio up in their car and working, in less than
10 minutes.
Because you are hams, you might be asked to hook up a bunch of radios....not
necessarily yours and not necessarily
ham radios. You ready?
Jim, WA6OFT
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Subject: Anderson Power Poles
From: Robert Radmore <rradmore@wzrd.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 21:03:11 -0400
X-Message-Number: 6
Many thanks for all the replies. I have the information needed. All the
replies gave the same info on proper mating which is what was needed.
Thanks
Bob N2PWP
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Subject: [RE: Anderson Power Poles]
From: K8DNE <wh.reynolds@verizon.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:03:27 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7
Resent to the sig. 73.....bill
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [aprssig] RE: Anderson Power Poles
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 16:17:27 -0500
From: K8DNE <wh.reynolds@verizon.net>
To: Christensen, Eric <CHRISTENSENE@MAIL.ECU.EDU>
References:
<LYR31398-154823-2003.10.16-14.02.54--wh.reynolds#verizon.net@lists.tapr.org>
The Anderson PPs are the standard in Dallas County and all RACES units
therein, as of October 2004. The Dallas County RACES Council adopted
the new standard last year and gave the RACES appointees 2 years to convert.
See the URL below for our standard:
http://www.qsl.net/rowlettraces/eqstds..htm
Good luck and be safe y'all.
73.....bill
--
W. H. (Bill) Reynolds, K8DNE
A.R.R.L. Liaison F.C.C. Examiner
8821 Willowbrook Dr.
Rowlett, TX 75088-4614
Phone: 972-475-3854
E-Mail = <wh.reynolds@verizon.net>
Rowlett, TX RACES Radio Officer, Unit 801R
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Subject: Re: Anderson Power Poles
From: "Sean \\The RIMBoy\\" <sean@rimboy.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2003 18:20:24 -0500 (CDT)
X-Message-Number: 8
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003, Spider wrote:
>How did this standard or any standard for a power connector Emergency
>Services come to be?
Most likely thru trial and error and years of experience. Kinda like how
APRS has mushroomed to it's current state. IIRC, the molex was originally
chosen for it's ubiquity. That said, I despise the molex and I'm sure
others do too. Add to that fact that there is no gender on the power
poles makes it a much better choice.
>I have not followed this concept and I am having a
>real hard time understanding why such a standard needs to be.
Because in an emergency you don't want to have to diddle with wiring stuff
up. You should be able to plug in and go. By standardizing on a
connector you save yourself from having to crimp connections and blow up
your rig in a stressful heat of the moment. Instead you can just plug in
and go without having to think about getting it wired up.
I agree that you need to be prepared for just about anything. However,
part of that preparation is knowing that when you walk into a situation
that you'll be ready to go without having to take the time to get it
hooked up beyond plugging in.
>I do not see how on earth having a standard on a power connector is going to
>solve a typical everyday power situation. devices.
I don't see how everyone standardizing on 144.390 is a good thing
</sarcasm> I don't see how everyone standardizing on the std 110 outlet
is a good thing either. I mean, I can plug just about everything into
it! My 12vdc switching power suppy, my computer, the TV, the horrors!
>I run around powering things all the time in emergency situations. I'd much
>rather have a wire I can strip, clamp and insulate, rather than worry about
>not having the right connector. Lord knows I never seem to have the right
>breakers!
Well, you can only plan so much. The thing is, they're at least planning
ahead. And it's not like you can't relatively safely jam an alligator
clip into a power pole (I said relatively safely).
>I think that this standard needs to include all thinkable possibilities and
>hams should have the gear to connect to power any way they can, in very
>short notice.
I'm sure they do. By standardizing on the power pole they're eliminating
many possibilities... if you've already standardized on the power pole
then all you *may* need is a power pole with bare wires/lugs/spades, a
power pole to the std connector most radio manf use and a power pole to
molex. I'd say you've got most of the bases covered.
Sean...
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