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Subject: Re: DigiTraveler to PalmIIIxe
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 12:13:41 -0400
X-Message-Number: 16
>Mike Yetsko wrote:
>
>>On the Palm XMapHH program, go to the GPS pulldown and make sure
>>the device in 'settings' hightlights "RadioShack DigiTraveler".
>>
>>
>Mine works ok on my Palm IIIxe. However the max time you can set the
>Palm to be on is 3 min. Then it shuts every thing off. Is there some way
>to make it stay on. Kind of worthless as it is.
I'm not sure what the 'max timeout' is on my IIIc, but I an set it to
disable the timeout completely when it's in the cradle. Maybe it's just
that when I use the 'hotsync' cable to link to the GPS it thinks it's in
the cradle.
On the other hand, it's new. So when I play with it, I'm constantly
playing with the maps. I don't know if it will time out or not!
You know, I'll have to play and find out...
Mike
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Subject: Re: DigiTraveler to PalmIIIxe
From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" <hacker@tc.fluke.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 09:19:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 17
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Dale Blanchard wrote:
>Mine works ok on my Palm IIIxe. However the max time you can set the
>Palm to be on is 3 min. Then it shuts every thing off. Is there some way
>to make it stay on. Kind of worthless as it is.
Yea. There are freeware apps out on the 'net that will take care of
this. I used to have one or two of them. They should be easy to
find.
--
Curt Mills, WE7U hacker_NO_SPAM_@tc.fluke.com
Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math!"
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates!" -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Subject: Re: DigiTraveler to PalmIIIxe
From: Mark Earle <wa2mct@mearle.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 11:19:00 -0500
X-Message-Number: 18
Interesting. I had Solus 2.0 already purchased, so use that with this and
several other GPSs. The maps come from Street Atlas 9. With Solus, as long
as it is active, the Palm IIIxe stays powered up.
At 09:04 AM 10/9/2003 -0700, Dale Blanchard wrote:
>Mike Yetsko wrote:
>
>>On the Palm XMapHH program, go to the GPS pulldown and make sure
>>the device in 'settings' hightlights "RadioShack DigiTraveler".
>>
>Mine works ok on my Palm IIIxe. However the max time you can set the Palm
>to be on is 3 min. Then it shuts every thing off. Is there some way to
>make it stay on. Kind of worthless as it is.
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Subject: Re: DigiTraveler to PalmIIIxe
From: Robbie <mwrobertson@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 11:21:52 -0500
X-Message-Number: 19
Dale,
I used mine in the car and it never turned off the whole time.. Maybe
something in the program or OS isn't set for continuos operation?
Robbie, wa9inf
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Subject: Re: DigiTraveler to PalmIIIxe
From: Claude Head <k5dtn@swbell.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 11:45:37 -0500
X-Message-Number: 20
Don't know about the Palm IIIxe, but with my Palm Tungsten T, the unit
stays on as long as it is running the mapping application, even thought
it does shut itself off after a few minutes on other applications. This is
using the DeLorme XMap Street Atlas, Handheld Edition, that came
with the Digitraveler. You might check with Palm about which bit
(if any) to tickle to get the unit to stay on. Might also look into getting
the latest version of the Palm OS that is available for the IIIxe.
Good luck.
73, Claude Head
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Subject: Re: DigiTraveler to PalmIIIxe
From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" <hacker@tc.fluke.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 21
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Claude Head wrote:
>Don't know about the Palm IIIxe, but with my Palm Tungsten T, the unit
>stays on as long as it is running the mapping application, even thought
>it does shut itself off after a few minutes on other applications.
Most applications don't mess with the timer, 'cuz they don't want to be the
cause of you losing all your data when the batteries run out.
"AlwaysOn" is a free palm app that I've used before to keep the unit on:
http://home.t-online.de/home/RPersicke/rps.htm
Is the link in the docs that came with it.
--
Curt Mills, WE7U hacker_NO_SPAM_@tc.fluke.com
Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math!"
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates!" -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Subject: Re: DigiTraveler to PalmIIIxe
From: Dale Blanchard <wa7ixk@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 10:03:54 -0700
X-Message-Number: 22
Mark Earle wrote:
>Interesting. I had Solus 2.0 already purchased, so use that with this
>and several other GPSs. The maps come from Street Atlas 9. With Solus,
>as long as it is active, the Palm IIIxe stays powered up.
I turned on Solus basic. It still turns off. I have v-4 software.
After playing with the maps it does not seem very useful anyway.
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Subject: Re: Open-Source TNC anyone?
From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" <hacker@tc.fluke.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:06:53 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 23
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Adi Linden wrote:
>Hmmm, maybe I should investigate Debian. Looks like the smalles RedHat
>install is well over 500MB. When running on a CF card, keep in mind that
>these cards have limited write cycles of maybe 100k or 1000k. While that
>is a lot, you could wear out the card over time if you treat it like a HDD
>and write even temporary stuff to it. Make sure you don't put swap space
>on it!
I've put Slackware on 10MB before on a laptop. I added X11 to it and kept
it under 20MB.
There are special tiny distributions of Linux for embedded applications,
and flash filesystems which will walk the writes across the disk, extending
its life (I still wouldn't use it for /tmp, /var/tmp, or swap though!).
--
Curt Mills, WE7U hacker_NO_SPAM_@tc.fluke.com
Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin
"Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math!"
"Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates!" -- WE7U
"The world DOES revolve around me: I picked the coordinate system!"
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Subject: Re: Open-Source TNC anyone?
From: "Scott Miller" <scott@opentrac.org>
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 10:26:27 -0700
X-Message-Number: 24
>I've put Slackware on 10MB before on a laptop. I added X11 to it
>and kept it under 20MB.
>
>There are special tiny distributions of Linux for embedded
>applications, and flash filesystems which will walk the writes
>across the disk, extending its life (I still wouldn't use it for
>/tmp, /var/tmp, or swap though!).
Yeah, I've seen a number of distributions that'll work just fine in under 8
megs. Flash is fairly cheap though, and I'd rather be able to log into the
box, do package management, and compile stuff locally. Having 128 or 256
megs available gives you a lot more elbow room.
My box is doing just fine with no swap configured. I might have to see if I
can find a utility to analyze disk access - I've got the 'mark' feature
turned of in syslog, and it doesn't seem to do much writing to disk, but I'd
hate to wear a hole in the flash beacuse I overlooked a log or a semaphore
file. Even with a purpose-built flash filesystem it'd be best to minimize
write activity.
Scott
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Subject: Re: DigiTraveler to PalmIIIxe
From: Dale Blanchard <wa7ixk@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 10:27:08 -0700
X-Message-Number: 25
Curt Mills, WE7U wrote:
>On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Dale Blanchard wrote:
>
>>Mine works ok on my Palm IIIxe. However the max time you can set the
>>Palm to be on is 3 min. Then it shuts every thing off. Is there some way
>>to make it stay on. Kind of worthless as it is.
>
>"AlwaysOn" is a program that I've used before. From the .txt file:
I loaded Always on. will try it later. Any body know if there is a way
to feed 3 volts up one of the wires in the cable. I made a 3 volt
adaptor for my Etrex.
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Subject: Re: DigiTraveler to PalmIIIxe
From: "Mike Yetsko" <myetsko@insydesw.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 13:34:05 -0400
X-Message-Number: 26
I just ran an experiment.
I set my timeout to 30 seconds.
With one exception, at all times the unit will power off in 30 seconds
without touching the screen or a button.
The exception is if the GPS is tracking.
So, either the Palm senses the serial I/O activity, or it has something in
the program that tickles a 'keep alive' bit whenever the GPS is running
and transmitting data.
Mike
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