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DT:Sunday,July 3rd.,2011 @2313hrs EST

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> From         : G0TEZ         To           : GAMES @WW
> Type/Status  : B$            Date/Time    : 03-Jul 18:19
> Bid          : BB0231G0TEZ   Message #    : 44909
> Title        : RE:GOTEZ's comments,Pete
>
> Thak you Pete.

Hello Ian and others mildly reading along ... And sorry I have not
been on Skype lately, still dealing with the tree, and insurance,
as well the loss of a cat due to a neighbour's banned breed dog
jumping the fence and killing her...Maria, could give you her
feelings.... but to say we are not very good sprites lately.

> I didn't even know that there was a Canada day, let alone that
> it was celebrated with fireworks and dancing. I bet it's not as
> much fun as carneval !

 At the community parkette we have here, Maria was the only one
dancing, and she wondered why the rest looked so bored.   YES
she would agree with you about Brasilian partys and celebrations.

  CANADA DAY ...July 1st., has an intersting history, and the local
events helped if you examine them in 1867.  Hahahahhaha...

> I fell really old when I remember that, before the red maple leaf,
> Canada had a different flag. I also remember when the Welsh flag
> was the cross of St David, a white '+' on a blue background not a
> red dragon on a red and green background. TV programmes never
> mention that it is part of the Union Jack, if you look carefully.

  The last Canadian Flag was the Red Duster of the British Merchant
Fleet, and it had a coat of arms of CANADA in the right top to bottom
part of the flag.   It was changed to appease ..but opposed by the
Legion.    Ontario adopted the Red Duster as their flag.

Yes I remember the Union Flag or Jack, and the combination and well
yes I see you had to appease them too.   Lots of the welsh folks
here display the red dragon on the red and green background, even
if you try to explain their part of the Union Flag.   Oh well...
I guess that is progress, all this appeasement and bending over
backwards...etc.

> At least canada never adopted something with blue,white and red
> stripes.

  Ssh don't tell'em the coat of arms of the Washington family or
they might be changing their flag,  but then with all the mire
they have set themselves like everyone else where there needs
to be change ...takes a lot to amend their whatever.

> Perhaps the Quebecoise are going to agitate for that if they get
> independence.

  The PQ, has been dropped as the official opposition party in the
Canadian National Parliament...I always found it so stupid to even
consider them there, as their main purpose seems to take Quebec
out of the Canadian Federation.   Their problem is NOT all folks
in Quebec have their hangups.    If they did leave,  it would be
a very small country, and rebellion of other people in the Province
as well native peoples, and then to be surrounded by a continent
that speaks only English would spell the end no matter.  Why would
CANADA stay two languages if Quebec leaves?   NO way would the rest
of us put up with it for long.     Might also be a great question
for oor David in UK to ponder....but alast he is not on packet.

> As for Guy Fawkes night, it is over 10 years since kids
> stopped knocking on doors to scrounge money for fireworks to later put
> through your letterbox. They had just started scrounging for money with
> which to celebrate Hallowe'en, recntly borrowed from the Americans.

 Aaah Halloween.    I have noted that in Brasil.   Maria told her mum
and it got started in the neighbourhood.....funny thing.   But then
we also celebrated in Scotland, with turnip lanterns... I remember
that from 1950s.

> Thanks to the gyneocracy spreading rumours on TV that all men were
> paederasts or 'paedophiles' as they prefer to call it now, all scrounging,
> including carol singers disappeared quite suddenly. A great relief to most
> of us 'oldies'.

Hmmm...All I remember about a few of them...were they were phony people.
In fact very few I would invite to my home for a party.

> Now, the doting parents have to buy their own fireworks for the little
> darlings which, along with a huge price hike means that they annoy us for
> a far shorter time on November the 5th.

Aaaah great memorys Ian.    But from Scotland.


>                                         They also have to buy plastic
> pumpkins and 'candy' too. A triumph of marketing for someone for, what has
> never been a British holiday.

  I wonder why we celebrated in Scotland?  Maybe due to All Saint's Night
or the night of the dead?

> Tomorrow, the 4th of July, will only be noticed in the nearest cities like
> Manchester, 35 miles away and Liverpool,60 miles (100 km) away, each with
> a US embassy.

   Here too .... July 1 to 4 ... we always hear the firworks... But then
July 4th was worked into July 1st...to make a longer one,   and then too
Americans are here as family, friends, and tourists but mostly family
and friends.

> When I was a child, all boys knew how to make gunpowder and even higher
> explosives so, being in a remote area as you know from our communications,
> we knew how to make really big bangs, even Molotov cocktails which are NOT
> the same as simple petrol bombs. Probably a legacy of WW II and all the
> handbooks which were floating around.

  Had to cut short the answering...so Ian and readers, this part is
being made  Monday July 4th.,2011 @ 1013hrs EST .... Happy July 4th.

  The fireworks, here in wimpy Canada are mild compared to anywhere else
and when I was in Brasil, they were using some pretty strong charges,
enough to blow a hand off, as there were injurys after the event we were
at ...   New Years eve down there and these fireworks going off, sent
ripples across the pool .

Molotov cocktails, and others things were in a mannual given out frrely
after Dunkirk and the thought that right after,  the German Armed Forces
would invade as they had done so well in Europe.  Lots of fun storys with
the Home Guard, related by family members serving in our forces.

> I suspect that, unlike when I was at school, kids are not taught enough
> chemistry to make explosives, and a good thing too. I hate to think what
> it would be like if they knew how to make Nitrogen Iodide.

Our Chemistry in public was boring.  High School was boring too, with
only a smelly stink bomb.  My father showed me how ...on a few things,
and in metal shop I built a small cannon-type weapon, and the school
thought it was a microphone...hahahhaha.

> Like Newfoundland, I suspect that English kids probably don't know why
> they celebrate Guy Fawkes and, they too, call it bonfire night.

Really !     We knew it as Guy Fawkes Night in Scotland.   Of course my
dad did a commute from Halifax to Scotland, to join in...but we were
both too young to think what the night was all about.

I wonder if Guye Fawkes would have been smiling when the Cannuckian
Parliament Buildings burned to the ground in the early 1900s.
I'd go for a celebration of that...but no...they say we hav too many
holidays.

> The sale of fireworks has widened to include New Year, which probably
> results in more sales especially in Scotland and then, the Chinese have
> always had special dispensation to let off firewoks on Feb 15th, the
> Chinese New Year, Gung Hey Fat Choy ! We never hear them around here so,
> perhaps, all our local Chinese head for Manchester with quite a big
> Chinese population.

 Same here.   But thru the summer months, there is always a pop and or bang
somewhere, and no reason except they got away from the job to vacation.
Theres a reason to celebrate.

> Take care, give my love to Maria and a belated happy Canada Day, now I
> know the date.

   Ok ... she asks about you on the Skype Drac!   hahahahaha...see you
Ian, and watchout for night flights, unless you have some countermeasures
like fire fighting..if you know what I mean.

   BTW...quiet here today, as you know by my note... and not one bang
in the daytime, or a US flag...hmmmmm...should I hang out my flag?

73 Pete VE3WBZ










73 - Ian, G0TEZ @ GB7CIP

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happy 4 of July anyhow...
 
73 again from Pete & Maria @ VE3WBZ


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