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PA3GJE > SATELLIT 28.11.03 14:16l 70 Lines 2453 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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From: PA3GJE @ LX0PAC.LUX.EU  (Leon)
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from : pa3gje @ lx0pac.lux.eu also via ve3mch.ampr.org
to   : sat@ww, amsat@ww
sub  : SWL HAMSAT, VUSat

SWL&VUSat ( HAMSAT ) part2

A little bit abt up&dwn frequencies of VUSat, HAMSAT.  
HAMSAT : downlink center 145.90 MHz, uplink center 435.25 MHz, 
bandwidth 0.060 MHz.  

So we know : 

145 MHz : 145.870.000 - 145.930.000
435 MHz : 435.220.000 - 435.280.000

this delivers a calc factor T ( f,T osc ) : 

T (1) = 581.15     INV transponder
T (2) = 289.35 NON INV transponder

Some more :-) calculations deliver : 

A1 RX=T-[TX+DS70]+DS02
B1 TX=T-[RX-DS02]-DS70

DS02 is 2m doppler and DS70 70cm doppler value. 
DS02=DS70/3 and DS70=DS02*3 ..... 

An example : suppose somebody transmits on 435.25 MHz ( center band ) and the 
LEO doppler value ( on 70cm, DS70 ) for that moment is -8 kHz ( a LEO LOS 
situation ) : we will see the coming back signal ( downlink ) on the 
ground station antenna : 

formula A1 RX=T-[TX+DS70]+DS02=581.15-[435.25+(-0.008)]+(-0.008/3)=145.90533etc. MHz. 

Because doppler values are changing less if existing LEO AOS/LOS situations, 
sometimes it could be convenient to make such a calculation as above. 
Further it is possible now to compose a satellite mode B ( in this case hi ) 
TRANSLATION CHART, perhaps with doppler shift compensation if you want. Some 
very good results ( examples ) you will find in THE SATELLITE handbook ( ARRL 
edition ISBN 0-87259-658-3 4-3fig4-2 & 4-4fig4.3 ..... 
 
You could use it outside, without a prgr. etc. etc. 

Concerning a NON INV transponder : 

A2 RX=[TX+DS70]-T+DS02
B2 TX=[RX-DS02]+T-DS70

An example : suppose somebody transmits on 435.25 MHz ( center band ) and the 
LEO doppler value ( on 70cm, DS70 ) for that moment is -8 kHz ( a LEO LOS 
situation ) : we will see the coming back signal ( downlink ) on the 
ground station antenna : 

formula A2 RX=[TX+DS70]-T+DS02=[435.25+(-0.008)]-289.35+(-0.008/3)=145.88933etc. MHz. 

Remark : both uplink frequencies are the same ( example 1 and 2 ), center up, but 
the downlink signals are different. The signal, when it arrives at the transponder 
antenna, is not center anymore ( because of the doppler influences ). 
Both transponder types will only work the same at f=center. 

55 with the satellites, 73 Leon ((-,O)) PA3GJE. 

pa3gje@lx0pac.lux.eu
pa3gje@amsat.org
http://www.qsl.net/pa3gje
http://www.qrz.com/database?callsign=pa3gje


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