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Packet-Radio Digest         Mon, 20 Dec 99       Volume 99 : Issue  302

Today's Topics:
                                (none)
                ********RINVENUTA REFURTIVA**********
                                 ???
                           atr2680 ?? help
Making money by helping eachother, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours
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Date: 19 Dec 99 13:19:33 GMT
From: arjomandi@4u.NET (Mohammed R. Arjomandi)
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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 02:24:18 +0100
From: SEA <sea@motorart.net>
Subject: ********RINVENUTA REFURTIVA**********

Bruno Iannazzo ha scritto:

> In it.comp.emulatori Alex Benvi <benvi@cyber.dada.it> wrote:
> : Nucleo Operativo Carabinieri di Poggibonsi
>
> Molto ma molto offtopic

Sara' pure offtopic ma chissenefrega !

e' un'ottima iniziativa !

Complimenti a chi ha avuto quest'idea.

Fabrizio




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Date: 18 Dec 1999 07:18:55 GMT
From: Hamish Moffatt <hamish@rising.com.au>
Subject: ???

root <atle@gaudahost.atle> wrote:
> So these speeds are regulated, there are no technical reasons why the
transfer
> speed should be so low?
> Sorry to appear like such an idiot, but I need to know the basics:

The speeds are limited because increased speed requires increased bandwidth.
The 2m band runs from 144.0 to 148.0 MHz. Most of that is available for
FM use, say 145.0 to 148.0 (not quite true but good enough). If everybody
used 1 MHz to transfer at high data rates, only 3 people could use
the band at a time! So it is split up into 25 kHz channels (here in
Australia) and I think 20 kHz channels or even 10 kHz in the USA.

> How fast could you theoretically transfer data on the 144MHz band?

And the bandwidth isn't exactly equivalent to the data rate.
It depends on the modulation scheme. Some are better than others. FM
is a very wideband mode, so putting 1200bps onto FM is fairly wasteful.
9600 is much less wasteful.


Hamish
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Hamish Moffatt       Mobile: +61 412 011 176     hamish@rising.com.au
Rising Software Australia Pty. Ltd.    http://www.risingsoftware.com/
Phone: +61 3 9894 4788    Fax: +61 3 9894 3362    USA: 1 888 667 7839
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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:19:16 +0100
From: "Olivier.F4AFO" <Olivier.F4AFO@wanadoo.fr>
Subject: atr2680 ?? help

hello

i have a atr 2680.
is it possible to change frequency and programme there radio to trafic into
the ham radio ?

where i go to more info for thise radio in the web ?

thank.

f4afo olivier




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Date: 20 Dec 99 04:37:33 GMT
From: skaca22@hotmail.COM (Marco Olson)
Subject: Making money by helping eachother, you scratch my back I'll scratch
yours

This is simple, safe, and it really works! For $6 (U.S), 6 stamps, and
about an hour of your time, you could earn a year's salary in a month.
Sounds to good to be true, but just imagine. WHAT IF?
A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like
you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you
could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial
investment of $6.00!
So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam!" but like most of us, I
was curious. Like most of us, I kept reading. Anyway, it said that if
you send $1.00 to each of the 6 names and addresses stated in the
article, you could make thousands in a very short period of time. You then 
place
your own name and address at the bottom of the list at #6, and post the
article to at least 200 newsgroups. (There are about 22,000.) or e-mail
them to friends, or e-mailing lists...
No catch, that was it.
Even though the investment was a measly $6, I had three questions that
needed to be answered before I could get involved in this sort of thing.
1. IS THIS REALLY LEGAL?
I called a lawyer first. The lawyer was a little skeptical that I would
actually make any money but he said it WAS LEGAL if I wanted to try it.
I told him it sounded a lot like a chain letter but the details of the
system (SEE BELOW) actually made it a legitimate legal business.
2. Would the Post Office be ok with this...?
I called them: 1-800-725-2161 and they confirmed THIS IS ABSOLUTELY
LEGAL!
(See Title 18,h sections 1302 NS 1341 of Postal Lottery Laws). This
clarifies the program of collecting names and addresses for a mailing
list.
3. Is this moral?
Well, everyone who sends me a buck has a good chance of getting A LOT
of money ... a much better chance than buying a lottery ticket!
So, having these questions answered, I invested EXACTLY $7.92 ... six
$1.00 bills and six 32 cent postage stamps ... and boy am I glad I did!
Within 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I
still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it another thought. But the
money just continued coming in. In my first week, I made about $20.00 to
$30.00 dollars. By the end of the second week I had a mad total of 
$1,000.00!
In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it was still growing. This is
now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and
it's still coming in.....
It's certainly worth $6.00 and 6 stamps!
So now I'm reposting this so I can make even more money! The *ONLY*
thing stopping *ANYONE* from enriching their own bank account is pure
laziness!
It took me all of 5 MINUTES to print this out, follow the directions,
and begin posting to newsgroups. It took me a mere 45 minutes to post
to over 200 newsgroups. And for this GRAND TOTAL investment of $ 7.92 (US)
and under ONE HOUR of my time, I have reaped an incredible amount of
money
--
like nothing I've ever even heard of anywhere before!
'Nuff said!
Let me tell you how this works, and most importantly, why it works.


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