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The nautical almanac (you can buy at any ship chandlery) will give the
declination and hour angle of the sun at closely spaced time intervals.
IIRC it will also give the time of sunrise and sunset at certain latitudes.
With sight reduction tables ( eg HO-249 or any of several others, also
available at a ship chandlery) you can find the altitude and azimuth of a
body given the declination and hour angle of the body and your own position.
There is also software to do this. You might want to check some of the
sailing newsgroups, or pick up a copy of "Ocean Navigator" magazine. But I
prefer that my emergency navigation kit not depend on anything electronic.
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Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 21:45:55 GMT
From: "NSacon" <nsacon@hotmail.com>
Subject: KPC-3 v. KPC-3 plus
What's the difference between the KPC-3 and the -3 plus? When was the KPC-3
upgraded to a 3+? Can a 3 be upgraded to a 3+?
73 de
Neal KK7PA
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 17:01:34 -0600
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net>
Subject: Packet Hackers
phil reed {domain actually ic.net - reversed for anti-spam} wrote in message
>>
>>If you are using digital for making "official" DXCC or contest contacts, I
>>doubt anyone would support use of non-radio means. But DXCC and contesting
>>are different from traffic handling. Traffic handlers have used non-radio
>>means for years, before a digital network was even conceived of.
>
>I've heard of a number of examples, notably in county-hunting, where a
county
>hunter was called on the phone and told to get on his radio because a rare
>county had just popped up. Is this sufficient to invalidate the
county-hunter's
>award?
I don't see why that would be the case. It's kind of unsporting and cheapens
the entire concept behind county-hunting, but still it's not illegal. It's
just kind of stupid and cheap.
73 DE Charles Brabham,
N5PVL @ N5PVL.#NTX.TX.USA.NOAM
http://www.texoma.net/~n5pvl
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 00:53:54 GMT
From: brianburke@my-dejanews.com
Subject: Packet Hackers
In article <368e9833.0@news.ic.net>,
pcr@ten.ci (phil reed {domain actually ic.net - reversed for anti-spam})
wrote:
> In article <76lfq7$jve@beast.connix.com>, jbloom@arrl.org says...
> >
> >Charles Brabham wrote in message <76l9st$2fv@enews1.newsguy.com>...
> {snip}
> >>telephone to get though last few contacts needed to score well in a
contest
> >>or to recieve a DX award certificate would certainly make the ham involved
> >>"more capable", so why not? Hmmm?
> >
> >
> >If you are using digital for making "official" DXCC or contest contacts, I
> >doubt anyone would support use of non-radio means. But DXCC and contesting
> >are different from traffic handling. Traffic handlers have used non-radio
> >means for years, before a digital network was even conceived of.
>
> I've heard of a number of examples, notably in county-hunting, where a
county
> hunter was called on the phone and told to get on his radio because a rare
> county had just popped up. Is this sufficient to invalidate the
county-hunter's
> award?
>
> --
> ...phil
> Copyright, Phillip C. Reed, 1998.
> Naughty words: eWorks! OT7 AOL bomb Green Card hack phreak breast sex
> PGP fingerprint = C5 41 B5 9E B4 56 0C C3 26 FC B9 ED BC D7 CA 8B
>
>
It couldn't be any worse than an eme sked where you know all the information
to be passed in advance.
Brian/N0iMD
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Date: 2 Jan 1999 17:05:39 -0500
From: pcr@ten.ci (phil reed {domain actually ic.net - reversed for anti-spam})
Subject: Packet Hackers
In article <76lfq7$jve@beast.connix.com>, jbloom@arrl.org says...
>
>Charles Brabham wrote in message <76l9st$2fv@enews1.newsguy.com>...
{snip}
>>telephone to get though last few contacts needed to score well in a contest
>>or to recieve a DX award certificate would certainly make the ham involved
>>"more capable", so why not? Hmmm?
>
>
>If you are using digital for making "official" DXCC or contest contacts, I
>doubt anyone would support use of non-radio means. But DXCC and contesting
>are different from traffic handling. Traffic handlers have used non-radio
>means for years, before a digital network was even conceived of.
I've heard of a number of examples, notably in county-hunting, where a county
hunter was called on the phone and told to get on his radio because a rare
county had just popped up. Is this sufficient to invalidate the county-
hunter's
award?
--
...phil
Copyright, Phillip C. Reed, 1998.
Naughty words: eWorks! OT7 AOL bomb Green Card hack phreak breast sex
PGP fingerprint = C5 41 B5 9E B4 56 0C C3 26 FC B9 ED BC D7 CA 8B
>.
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:59:00 -0600
From: "Charles Brabham" <n5pvl@texoma.net>
Subject: Packet Hackers
Jon Bloom wrote in message <76lfq7$jve@beast.connix.com>...
>>>
>>>The "damage" (if that's even the proper term) occured because the "global
>>>digital network consisting entirely and solely of Amateur Radio links"
was
>>>less capable than the hybrid network which has evolved.
>>
>>Following your reasoning above, can I assume that you would support a move
>>to add "hybrid" capabilities to other aspects of the hobby as well? Using
>a
>>telephone to get though last few contacts needed to score well in a
contest
>>or to recieve a DX award certificate would certainly make the ham involved
>>"more capable", so why not? Hmmm?
>
>If you are using digital for making "official" DXCC or contest contacts, I
>doubt anyone would support use of non-radio means. But DXCC and contesting
>are different from traffic handling. Traffic handlers have used non-radio
>means for years, before a digital network was even conceived of.
You know as well as I that NTS traffic handling is used to allow use of Ham
Radio resources by non-hams, in much the same way MARS is set up with phone
patches. The Ham Digital Network is not set up for communication by
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