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Subj: [MT63] Re: Crest Factors
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Greetings friends,

     This term "Crest Factor" is a new one on me.  I admit to doing my 
Postgraduate School work way back shortly after WW2.  I see Mark Miller has 
clarified the term to be peak to RMS.   That appears to be akin what we SSB 
pioneers called the "Peak to Average" power ratio.  We almost lost the SSB 
campaign to Double Sideband Suppressed Carrier (DSB) because the Human Voice 
has an extremely poor Peak to average Power ratio.  One of the chief 
proponents of DSB was a fellow whose last name was Kahn.  Back in the AM 
days one could greatly improve the Peak to Average ratio of the human voice 
by using audio clipping to improve the ratio greatly.  DSB could also employ 
the audio clipping but the nature of SSB put the peaks back in.  Kahn was 
able to show that DSB was 3db better than SSB by using the audio clipping. 
That is when we invented the "Voice Processor".  We simply generated the SSB 
signal first and then clipped and filtered.  Worked great.  When the going 
got tough one just turned on the "Voice Processor".   We found that the 
optimum adjustment of the "Processor" was at about 6db peak to average 
improvement.  That was almost like turning on a linear.  Nowadays 10db by a 
linear is more or less standard.  There was a time linears produced more 
than 10db but grounded grid linears became the norm.  My point is that, if 
we are talking about the same sort of thing,  then higher "Crest Factors" 
indicate poorer "on the air" performance.  The best producer would be a 
"Crest Factor" of 0db.  That would be a steady carrier.  Practically no 
information is derived from a steady carrier.  I say practically no 
information meaning nothing beyond knowing the presence of the carrier.and 
the Doppler produced by reflections of the steady carrier.

Aloha  --  Butch -- W6KAG  --  Coos Bay Oregon





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