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On Thu, 10 Mar 2005, David Willmore wrote:

> So, MT63 (63 carriers of BPSK and heavy FEC) in a 1KHz BW at -5db (in 
> the same BW?) SNR competing with a similar signal in 6KHz of BW will be 
> -12.8db SNR (in a 6KHz BW).  Do you expect to be able to decode that?
>
> What I'm getting at is that adding bandwidth isn't a wonderful solution 
> to your problems.

Please remember that you *can* trade power for bandwidth. That's what 
Shannon said over 50 years ago and most hams don't get today. You can get 
a given amount of information through with less power if you increase the 
bandwidth (ie. add redundancy: fec). Of course HF makes the situation much 
more "interesting" but it's basically still true.

Of course, more information needs more power if everything else is kept 
constant, so I'm not saying 56kbps is very feasible on HF...

-- 
Tomi Manninen / OH2BNS / KP20JF74


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